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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:10 am 
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Outpost farming is when a buddy builds an outpost and you take it. This is nowhere near outpost farming. All the AF/NA/xSx OPs have been there for a long time and were actually used by the alliance. The reason we are allowed to take those is because we prevent other alliances from getting them. It's not to expand our territory because we already have 5-6 continents, but more so they don't easily hand over outposts with little resistance.

fsss facepalm

1) u answering your self :lol: those alliances built and giving u ops no matter how many time passed from their colony build till farmin tic, logically.

2) admin prevented everyone from first of era and from other servers that taking ally op is a farming op for avoid the abuse.

-it s a rule that was clarified precisely by all admins against the abuse of taking allies ops.
-it was also broadcasted in this ce era by admin him self around tic 300
, if i remember as well.

the thing is rdh abused so much taking allies/subs ops everywhere
:lol:

= so rdh farming op!
:lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:13 am 
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ShadowReaperX wrote:
yozius wrote:
mmm
heared, others than xp farming, that rdh farmed ops so much (in india, antartica, africa...) and many people are so angry vs admins after no corrections :D

each time weno attaked an alliance that officially rdh ally, and marked by rdh as blue (af and na in the screnshot), geen come take their ops in their area.

then the attaker look like stupid as admin proov their stupidity when he dont react to it after a notice (stupidity as loosing time, energy and oil for take nothing as res op) :lol:


i got that pic from weno gang: http://i.imgur.com/Yg37k7z.png
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more screenshot exist, but apparently noone care.

it s a murder after prostitution :lol:



Outpost farming is when a buddy builds an outpost and you take it. This is nowhere near outpost farming. All the AF/NA/xSx OPs have been there for a long time and were actually used by the alliance. The reason we are allowed to take those is because we prevent other alliances from getting them. It's not to expand our territory because we already have 5-6 continents, but more so they don't easily hand over outposts with little resistance.

It's not cool to attack all our allies and try to take them out one by one. Of course we will try and have damage control by taking some outposts before anyone else can.

EDIT: Same concept if Phiz attacks a RBR outpost and we take it before so phiz doesn't get it.

fsss facepalm

1) u answering your self :lol: those alliances built and giving u ops no matter how many time passed from their colony build till farmin tic, logically.

2) admin prevented everyone from first of era and from other servers that taking ally op is a farming op for avoid the abuse.

-it s a rule that was clarified precisely by all admins against the abuse of taking allies ops.
-it was also broadcasted in this ce era by admin him self around tic 300
, if i remember as well.

the thing is rdh abused so much taking allies/subs ops everywhere :lol:

= so rdh farming op!
:lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:29 am 
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Outpost farming is when a buddy builds an outpost and you take it. This is nowhere near outpost farming. All the AF/NA/xSx OPs have been there for a long time and were actually used by the alliance. The reason we are allowed to take those is because we prevent other alliances from getting them. It's not to expand our territory because we already have 5-6 continents, but more so they don't easily hand over outposts with little resistance.

fsss facepalm

1) u answering your self :lol: those alliances built and giving u ops no matter how many time passed from their colony build till farmin tic, logically.

2) admin prevented everyone from first of era and from other servers that taking ally op is a farming op for avoid the abuse.

-it s a rule that was clarified precisely by all admins against the abuse of taking allies ops.
-it was also broadcasted in this ce era by admin him self around tic 300
, if i remember as well.

the thing is rdh abused so much !

= so rdh farming op!
:lol:



ok , so from the looks of the above it seems the RDH guy accepted that they are farming "upgraded" ops , i expect the admins to take some action so the other players dont feel that anyone can farm ops and then later boast on forum just cause he is an old player and has spend some reds on the game and belong to the group of people (milan and geen) whom admins have deemed to be honest people. I myself would be satisfied with a temprory ban (48ticks) on the guy who took the op as well the guy who let his ops being taken with a serious warning for future.

Just take some action so other players dont lose faith in Admin(s).


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:49 am 
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Another Ddos attack when PHIz makes a attack to kill a potential army. Right be before said attack, RBR moves to defend with 200 + units. Very suspect. You know, not for nothing, I do not care who is doing it; however, this is the dirtiest of tactics I have come across. This 100% unacceptable........after losing some units, I think Milan can agree with this. this is worse than sharing and needs to stop. Since the admins are incapable of figuring who this tool is, or they are unwilling to reprimand said person, we must all speak our voices. We all lose during these attacks. I am 2 steps away from playing this game anymore due to this nonsense. I refuse to go down like that. Thank god for Puffin browser (life saver),


Like I told you on skype, you really are reaching far now Lex. That server downtime wasn't just bad for you guys, you know. But yes, it is exceptionally annoying. If it was a DDos like it was before I suspect I know who it is and so do the admins.

Either way, they have some system in place to fight it, but it doesn't seem to always work sadly :\


Not reaching that far being others feel the same. Was not accusing anyone, but all being said, who had the most to gain for this attack? This is regardless of who did this. Not saying that you did it or put anyone up to it, but what looks like a cow (issue as a whole (big picture)), smells like a cow and tastes like a cow.....guess what.......is more than likely a cow with the exception of ToFu.

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That server downtime wasn't just bad for you guys


Well, it would not have turned out so good for us (whole army lost) if we did not:
A: Scramble like the *CENSORED* to get all on as we also tried to figure out a way around this (both admins were included in our skype conversation)
B: Having alternate programs to get people on
C: Have the technical know how to get onto the server (most do not have and would have died with no compensation)

You say good for us? If we were in a age (3 yrs ago) where somethings did not exist, we would have been done for.

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We see 245 squads attacking us, so we start waking up our players and begin to defend and boom servers start to go down. 1 player who sent to different op, can't change to right one, and 1 player was unable to send at all. This ddos affects not only PHIz, but everyonr else on the server. Stop trying to stretch and find an excuse to leave this game. If you are tired and want to quit, just do so.

That said, even Michael said it looked like another DDos attack, and I would think it's the same kid that started all of this months ago. Dude needs to get over w.e he is annoyed at and stop this.


Now Mr. G. I know you did not do this being that I would hope something cheezy like this is beneath you as well as most of us. It Dirty where you can make someone have a really bad day by them waking up finding out your army is dead due to this major issue. This is not the first time this has happened this era, and more than likely not the last for this era. Now "what if" we were all locked out and unable to log on? The main URL was not up till well after the next tick. Your army for the most part would have been reduced by 1/2 to 1/3 while our would have been completely dead. In the same respect, Milan would have lost more units as well. So, we would have all lost with the loss really tipping in your favor. Am I unhappy with the game play.......absolutely not! I am unhappy due to the new elements to the game:

Overly sensitive rules, DDoS attacks, Team view/other clients.

We all, well not all, put too much time, money, effort ect into this game to have this epic era end on this note. If your alliance won on benefit of DDoS the victory is tainted hence the overall victory is tainted. If by some shear miracle we happen to win, we will still have the earlier bans hanging over our victory; however, I can hold my head up after all that we have endured. I am more so speaking for the newer people not seasoned to the politics, tricks and work around that your vet has.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:18 am 
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skynet1 wrote:
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Outpost farming is when a buddy builds an outpost and you take it. This is nowhere near outpost farming. All the AF/NA/xSx OPs have been there for a long time and were actually used by the alliance. The reason we are allowed to take those is because we prevent other alliances from getting them. It's not to expand our territory because we already have 5-6 continents, but more so they don't easily hand over outposts with little resistance.

fsss facepalm

1) u answering your self :lol: those alliances built and giving u ops no matter how many time passed from their colony build till farmin tic, logically.

2) admin prevented everyone from first of era and from other servers that taking ally op is a farming op for avoid the abuse.

-it s a rule that was clarified precisely by all admins against the abuse of taking allies ops.
-it was also broadcasted in this ce era by admin him self around tic 300
, if i remember as well.

the thing is rdh abused so much !

= so rdh farming op!
:lol:



ok , so from the looks of the above it seems the RDH guy accepted that they are farming "upgraded" ops , i expect the admins to take some action so the other players dont feel that anyone can farm ops and then later boast on forum just cause he is an old player and has spend some reds on the game and belong to the group of people (milan and geen) whom admins have deemed to be honest people. I myself would be satisfied with a temprory ban (48ticks) on the guy who took the op as well the guy who let his ops being taken with a serious warning for future.

Just take some action so other players dont lose faith in Admin(s).


We gave no warning to taking outposts. Many messages arrived as to why we are taking the outposts. A player can attack any player on the map regardless of what they are marked. For example if we marked Phiz blue and we still take their outposts is that farming? No, of course not.

Same thing applies here. I repeat we did NOT outpost farm as the intention was never to farm but rather to prevent weno from taking the outposts. I even told AF/NA/xSx to raze all outposts and if not we will take it from them.

This can be viewed as an act of war against AF/NA/xSx but they remained blue as they agreed it was okay to take any outposts that weno was planning to take. I have seen many allies take each others outposts for uses like gating/getting closer and it has never been a problem. They could easily take them back but then weno would attack them and that is obviously not what we want.

Whoever thinks this is outpost farming is ridiculous. No player should EVER get banned for simply preventing another alliance from expanding, especially if they are taking allied outposts.

EDIT: Our diplomacy should not matter to other alliances. If AF/NA/xSx disliked taking their outposts by force they could easily attack us. The same situation was with Moo in Russia, they were taking peoples outposts but nobody did anything about.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:18 am 
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Well, its kinda monopoly going on in CE this time, admins became powerless with it. C'mon Admins I know you guys know what's going on, I still remember how Ilona threatned yozius, when yozius sent a spam to op of 1v1 (which got all 1v1 army) but NJ,RDH clan didn't knew it, so they reported Ilona saying it's farming
then Ilona told yozius to turn or face a red ban.

So what way this moves of RDH is logical?, can anyone explain me?

Reports has been sent, but no reply came from admins for ages, its really pathetic for BD now, they claim, everyworld is being monitored everyday of week, and when someone sends report, the messaged stays unopened for 24hrs+ and also unavailable on skype, So what conclusion the fellas of BD can draw from it?

Either BD is going pathetic or a typical monopoly going over there. Nothing more to say.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:23 am 
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princekael2 wrote:
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The guy I was talking about is now spamming. I have to admit this is perfect timing from him to demonstrate what I was talking about.

ya. however you have yet to demonstrate why you think it is ok to farm all of his squads as free EXP?


Because when people no longer play the era, it is worth it to do so and in all these cases I thought these people had.

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Marketing to do not get banned ? "Now hes an enemy, thats why I killed him or farmed some xp on him"

It's all business anyways, time to show ur great ability, "Manipulate" to be the victim. ;)


It's not marketing, it's actually what happened. So unless llll is playing along here, he was in our sub, and is now spamming us and in an llll sub.

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How you guys have the capability to confirm that did wrong and say that are right about that? So I can call my friends that are inactives and do not want to play anymore to farm on 'em ? It could be the same as I pay some friends to just make armors and I keep spying/nuking 'em to have r4/r5 units on an easy way..

Then say that "the guy now is spamming us and bla bla.." c'mon what do u think I am ? a kid ? Dont u have the balls to kill him on the enemy side ? prefer to abuse of the intel of ur sub leader to kill him (farm) while he still is carrying ur sub Flag ?

Holy *CENSORED*.. now I can farm xp.. its free now.. alright ?


I understand how it would look like that to you but these are people that:

1. I did not know before this round.
2. Do not know they are being killed.

I do this to anyone on this round who I think is inactive enough to make it worth it. Just in this case these people used to be in our sub. Let's say I hadn't attacked them. Then what, would it be fine 5 ticks later? 10? 50?

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And yea, Milly, stop xp farming your subs when you kick their members. Instead, tell me so I can kill them :lol:


Anyway that kind of is my point. They are inactive enough to be killed for exp, then I want to do it before someone else does.

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The main URL was not up till well after the next tick. Your army for the most part would have been reduced by 1/2 to 1/3 while our would have been completely dead. In the same respect, Milan would have lost more units as well. So, we would have all lost with the loss really tipping in your favor. Am I unhappy with the game play.......absolutely not! I am unhappy due to the new elements to the game:

Overly sensitive rules, DDoS attacks, Team view/other clients.


Lex, I think we should just agree that IF something like this happens and neither side can do anything about it, we should just have a rollback. I know there are backups, and it would be stupid to have the era be decided by something like this.

Neither side is to blame for what is happening with the server but after a long and grueling era like this it would be intensely unfair to end up losing it because some jealous kid somewhere is attacking a server.

Now for the people that "were so willingly farmed by me", apart from the one that joined the llll sub spamming us there is now another spamming us as soon as he logged in and saw that he had been attacked. He is quite unhappy with us.

All this just to illustrate that it's not like these players agree to be killed for the greater good. It's simply that we deem them to be inactive and we figure if someone is going to kill them for exp, it should be us before anyone else can. What if we have someone kicked for the sub and Moo goes for it, or NJ, or RBR? Or even someone else from the sub kills the player for the exp? I just wonder why you think this is different.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:24 am 
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Alone1 wrote:
Well, its kinda monopoly going on in CE this time, admins became powerless with it. C'mon Admins I know you guys know what's going on, I still remember how Ilona threatned yozius, when yozius sent a spam to op of 1v1 (which got all 1v1 army) but NJ,RDH clan didn't knew it, so they reported Ilona saying it's farming
then Ilona told yozius to turn or face a red ban.

So what way this moves of RDH is logical?, can anyone explain me?

Reports has been sent, but no reply came from admins for ages, its really pathetic for BD now, they claim, everyworld is being monitored everyday of week, and when someone sends report, the messaged stays unopened for 24hrs+ and also unavailable on skype, So what conclusion the fellas of BD can draw from it?

Either BD is going pathetic or a typical monopoly going over there. Nothing more to say.

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I never even knew that was illegal. People have been doing it all the time. Sending 1 spam to get a battle report was legal I thought.

EDIT: Surprise MF is also now spamming us and is very pissed in skype chat. Just goes to show that they had no idea they were being killed. Exp farms usually build up for the sole purpose of being killed and knowing about it, which is not what happened here.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:42 am 
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Alone1 wrote:
Well, its kinda monopoly going on in CE this time, admins became powerless with it. C'mon Admins I know you guys know what's going on, I still remember how Ilona threatned yozius, when yozius sent a spam to op of 1v1 (which got all 1v1 army) but NJ,RDH clan didn't knew it, so they reported Ilona saying it's farming
then Ilona told yozius to turn or face a red ban.

So what way this moves of RDH is logical?, can anyone explain me?

Reports has been sent, but no reply came from admins for ages, its really pathetic for BD now, they claim, everyworld is being monitored everyday of week, and when someone sends report, the messaged stays unopened for 24hrs+ and also unavailable on skype, So what conclusion the fellas of BD can draw from it?

Either BD is going pathetic or a typical monopoly going over there. Nothing more to say.

Regards.

btw :lol:
yes it was so funny so cant forget that, when rdh reported (they didnt even scaned and just rported ith closing eyes) then ilona didnt cheked that the 1v1 op had their full army vs my spam (for i giv them br). so it couldnot take the op then it s not farming, then pantera was laughing so hard cause ilona would ban me immediatly ith her full female force :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:52 am 
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I never even knew that was illegal. People have been doing it all the time. Sending 1 spam to get a battle report was legal I thought.



Yeah, it wasn't illegal, NJ and RDH thought it was empty op of 1v1 which we are taking with a spam, Admin didn't even check what was going on but they were brave enough to threat us with it without even checking the matter.

What if I say same for RDH's attacks on ops of AF? what was reason behind it?

I don't think those ops had units to get the BR, instead RDH took the ops and Admin is lazy to open the message and look into the matter once?

C'mon favouritism all over, pff thought CE was unbiased.

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