nubs do what they want to do, if they want to go for win they can by all means do it. TLA do what they want to do as well. Things don't always have to be black and white. One day your hive could be tucked away in Aus, next day you could be somewhere else. I don't think anyone EXPECTS nubs or TLA to hand over relics unless they want to. There's no binding agreement because that's just not how we work.

I don't see how this is too complicated to understand from someone who has played Old Client (I think you did, may be wrong). When everyone is going for their best interest things change. Hives move, since deals don't bind you to taking 2nd 3rd or handing your relics over other things can happen and do happen in eras like this. I guess if you're so used to New Client and the mentality of today it doesn't make sense to you why hives can be shared even knowing that along the line a fight may occur. Gotta kill off the battlehugs people before we can really compete though, quite annoying.

Again, you must misunderstand the deals everyone has. I'm glad that no info has leaked.

I'm not insulting your intelligence, you're making false assumptions and it is pretty annoying. Back up your false assumptions. I say something and you say I'm lying yet I don't see you showing the proof of my lying.

Sure, I manipulated NJ into having the majority of the alliance disagree with a pact that was signed without the alliance actually weighing in. Ask Tony or anyone else in that alliance what happened, all I know is after Tony massed the deal, Colin got the orange flag and it was vetoed. I think you and Rania give me way too much credit. If I've done everything you two have claimed I did, then this era would already be over lol.

As if anyone could manipulate Josh lol. I'm pretty sure he'll find this comment funny.

Unless you have R100 units, I'm honestly not that worried. You'll probably suicide on somebody, claim it was a good idea, and go play imaginary BD in your head where you actually matter.

Kenny don't add insult to injury. This is not old client this is modern day bd. And having people that both want victory share a hive has not happened in 3 years or more. And the fact you have no clear commitment to handover means nothing. In practice it amounts to the same thing.

As for you not manipulating people, you think I do not know about the common chats and that you coordinate the movements of at least 3 alliances? Dream on.

Finally, stop ignoring facts. We fought last Ce and I won you lost. You admitted to that yourself in an old post. That is the only fact so far. That and me having won more eras than you by a huge margin. Again pure fact.

You want to stop the battle hug? Here is your chance. I dare you. Put your money where your mouth is. Let's fight one on one. 1v1 vs Phiz, ba vs nubs, Kmo vs rdh. All rest we mark blue. And each alliance faces the other no one else and no one else interferes. Nj I left out because they are in no shape to fight anyone these days. Are you up for it? Alliance vs alliance? Show me you have something to back that big mouth of yours.

I already know your answer but my challenge stands. Defeat me and my horrible build by yourself and you can have your win.

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Now he talks about fighting "one vs one", where was this logic some 600 ticks back, when 3-4 alliances were sent to tag team on WSS?? Now, that your countless minions have fallen one by one, you suddenly realize the fact that alliances can fight a war "one vs one" too.

This guy Andrei never ceases to amaze us with his myopic & irrational arguments.

PLO of NJ first to fall.


We (by we, i mean a friend, he can take credit if he pleases) locked down NJ where they had 3 full armies. PLO relocated to save their armies and most of NJ's army converged on PLO's colony.

However they fled the colony and simply allowed us to conquer it. Not a bad decision.


Much more land gained. NJ will be pushed back into SA in the next week if they don't have an ace in their sleeve.

Which they could! They are a very formidable alliance and we can't overlook anything they do.

So because it hasn't happened in NC since the beginning of NC (did happen the first couple of eras), it can't happen here? That's stupid reasoning.

Sure, we have 1 major coalition chat where we coordinate things from time to time. I don't doubt you have a spy in it. Go pull the quotes that don't exist where I'm somehow puppeting them all and manipulating.

Actually just talked to Milan and a couple others and they say while you organized the alliance you can't take credit for the win since you were in TFM the entire era suiciding. Ouch. Sorry Andrei.

Okay so now you want to 1v1? What about before when you clearly outnumbered us and had the edge? I'm supposed to take your challenge seriously now? Get over yourself. You came to an era with over 22 alliances, now halfway through the era the majority of those alliances are dead and you want to 1v1. That's pretty funny. I don't see how this stops battehugs. Your side is still going to hand relics over to either KMO or 1v1 for the win. At least I get to have a fun FFA when my side wins this war. Have fun being not involved for the second half of this round. Watch carefully from the sidelines at how competitive BD is actually played.

I love how I always get pulled into things now-a-days. To clear things up. Colin is leader of Goat, a brother alliance to Moo. They are an actual brother alliance, not these crappy, fake brother alliances that are actually subs that most people go with now-a-days. I expect Colin to pull his own weight, make his own decisions and discuss them with me with clear and detailed reasoning behind his decisions.

If anyone thinks that Colin is manipulating me (as I have heard from god knows how many of you), then please, feel free to say so. If that is the case, then we will simply see who is the better manipulator, Colin or me. Simple.

But please also remember something, I have zero intention of surviving this CE and I am on no one's side. I don't care who my enemy is, including Colin if it truly comes down to it.

Kenny

Really? I was not involved in VND win? Ok let's ask every single one of their members and see what they think. And if Milan had the nerve to say that (which i truly believe he did not) he is an outright liar. Only reason Milan joined VND is because I brought him in. Same for all members except Lex, who i was only asked to approve.

So please stop your nonsense and stop trying to rewrite history.

As for handover, I am in 1v1 in case you didn't notice yes and maybe I will handover to myself . That would be such sub abuse lol.

Also so much for your battlehug thing. Now that it works in your favour you are all for it. Lol. You really are a funny guy in a eugene ionesco kind of way.

I only offered it cause you asked for it. i couldn't care less either way you lose this era. That much I know for sure

Talk is cheap. My next post is after you're capped.

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You were involved in VND win, you committed seppuku multiple times for very little benefit. Though you make it sound like you were there in VND fighting their wars alongside them and playing BD like a pro.. except you slammed your army into opponents randomly almost like idk.. you've done twice this era.

Lol, I think everyone in the anti-kmo coalition understands that no handover is going to happen between any of the major alliances. Maybe one or two of them have made a deal without my knowledge, but I guess I'll know after KMO/1v1 are dead. So if we're on the same page of battlehugs referring to bringing tons of helpers, suiciders, jammers, spammers, and having top alliances play for your sole benefit and to hand over relics, then I fail to see how anyone playing against you right now is doing that. You did that, and you failed. 20+ alliances brought here to CE not counting the ones who left your coalition to fight you, and you're losing badly. This is why we're eliminating you guys first. That way we can have a competitive era. One without your mentality and ideology. If you plan to suicide onto PHIz in attempts to stop us from winning, feel free to. It'll probably go just as bad as all of your other suicides.

After listening to all this talk about puppeteers and puppets, I believe it is time to emerge from the darkness and introduce myself. Hello. My name is, for all intents and purposes here, Prometheus1. It is I who used my astoundingly genius mind to manipulate Kenny into manipulating Colin into manipulating James and Josh and Tony and everyone else to achieve my own personal goals. I also admit to having manipulated Ourania into accusing Kenny of manipulating Colin of manipulating James and Josh and Tony, and of manipulating the a good 50% of the BD community into believing Ourania's accusation that Kenny is manipulating Colin into manipulating James and Josh and Tony and everyone else.

While I imagine this has come as a surprise to most of you, I do hope that you can get over yourselves and simply bow down to my superior intellect. All shall come to recognize it eventually, and all shall bow before me!

- Prometheus1