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Mike · **Posted:** Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:20 pm

SideOneDummy wrote:

Korupt wrote:

These are our polls though, no reason to have a special poll put in place as well. We decide what we think may be a good change to the game and we put it among our peers, from there higher ups will see it as well. Some suggestions are good some are bad but we vote and give our opinions on all of them. Just because something gets passed by us right away does not mean it will get into the game any sooner or that it will get into the game at all since devs and admins do have final say. So will it take awhile to get some suggestions passed? Yes, it will. Is that a bad thing? No, it is not. It allows players from different points to give their opinions, ideas, and votes. It allows us as players to discuss things more, to hammer out the kinks, or to think of ways to prevent possible issues from arising. In short there is no rush to get things passed because it will be implemented in its own time anyways, be patient, spread the word, and stay active on the things you really care about.

How is this not a public opinion poll?
My point was that this particular thread seems useless then. Have not the admins/devs discussed the length of replays/amount of time we have them amongst themselves before? What good does telling them they are wrong? Like I said, without either being able to ascertain and compare the disadvantages of this topic, the chances of this suggestion doing anything is 1:100. At least a public opinion poll would show results from less self-selection bias, meaning more accurate results. More accurate results would have some actual utility. This thread, as good-intentioned as it is, has very little utility.

SideOneDummy · **Posted:** Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:59 pm

People have to actively click on a title that says "Lock replays." In Statistics, this would fall under voluntary response bias, because only people with strong opinions of whether or not "replays should be locked" will answer. If everyone had to respond to public opinion polls before moving on, or at the very least. were strongly encouraged to give a response, then the results would not only be much larger, but they would be more accurate.

In short, if 60 or 70 people were agreed in unison about a certain administrative decision, admins/devs would likely go that particular route in efforts to assuage popular opinion. If < 30 people self-select themselves to vote on an administrative decision that they are discontent with, it is much easier for admins and devs to write it off as response bias. Again, this is the difference between an administrative decision and suggestion for what should be added to make the game more fun. Devs/admins absolutely should have more power in game functionality then in suggestions to make the game more fun because this is afterall their project. However, public opinion polls might at the very least help them out in this process whenever there is a shred of doubt amongst themselves.

This means, as much as I strongly am in favor of the supporting this thread, if the admins/devs are unwilling to adjust on this issue, then that is their call. But I really think that the admins/devs should be the ones discussing this here. Our opinions are quite trivial without them. Getting 30 votes here has very little merit and as much as I am grateful for the effort of lilconquer and everyone else that contributed to this thread, I think it will go nowhere unless a higher up weighs in on this

Mike · **Posted:** Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:18 pm

I think that is where you are confused on this, just because it is members and players voting here does not mean we have no weight to our decisions. I also think you forget that admins and devs are players too. We all care about what is best for the game and we work to improve it together. Your whole argument seems rather off topic to me.

lilconquer · **Joined:** Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:08 pm **Posts:** 827

come on peeps where are you?

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