I don't know why I did not think of this before... Why not give players credits when they sign up to the forums?

I think that would just turn out like the voting in bd, everyone goes to the link but doesn't really vote. Here they would sign up, get their credits and never been heard from again.

Probably right on that one. Also, I forgot that the forums and SM are not linked the same way like BD is.

well korupt i love how you know my past history on the forums (ssarcasm) i never said to cut down yes votes in the BD forums because now that more people are here i think 30 is easy to get for BD

also i love how in something you disagreed with from the very start doesnt get a poll added lol funny because in no way does this suggestion break any rules

also the issue isnt suggestions not getting passed quick enough. the issue is that every1 here comments and votes on it when they see it and then after every1 has left their opinion the topic dies down never to be heard of again. so next time dont try to assume why im suggesting this and put it in a rude manner. also stop looking at what happens in the past all the time. times change the game changes and the population changes and right now there sjust isnt enough people in the SM community to get things passed and if you want to prove me wrong get me a list of 30 active SM forum members that do come here and often contribute themselves in the suggestions.
anyhow add a pole this suggestion doesnt bresak any forum rules (wont mean much though cuz 30 people wont come here and vote on it i bet)

aye i guess the polls are working for me again now. i remember 1st time i made a SM suggestion it wouldnt let me. must have been a glitch

You act as if I did not add a poll to your topic in some form of malice, you have been on the forums and you know how to add a poll yourself (I have seen you do it). Therefore I assumed it was a conscious decision to not add a poll on your part. You are correct times changes and that is exactly why this does not need to be implemented, everyday I see new players posting on the sm forums. If we were able to reach 30 votes before (not long ago) and we have more players joining the game and forums everyday then obviously we have enough to get those votes. On a side note I in no way see how I have been rude in this topic or any others, I gave my opinion as I always do and I stated the issues with ideas again as I always do. Sorry I do not support your idea but as I have now said multiple times this is not a fix to any issue but simply sweeping it under the rug which only makes things worse.

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not rude eh?


dont tell me you dont see this happening a lot lately



please do so

im not replying to your post at all what so ever when you brushed off every point i made or twisted them

I realize you do not like my opinion in this, for that I apologize but it does not change the fact that what I have said is true. We have more player joining everyday and posting on the forums, we have passed suggestions recently, and even if this was an issue reducing the number of votes is not a fix but a patch that will only conceal the wound allowing it to fester and become much more severe. Reducing the number of votes is a temporary fix just like reducing the amount of worlds in bd was a temporary fix, we have seen how that has turned out. So my question to you is that really what you want to do here? Rather than work to find an actual fix to this problem you propose. Hey I'll even throw in a quote that I believe sums this up nicely though.

I do not disagree that we should increase involvement on forums, but I do not think we should hold ideas hostage to increase involvement. I myself say all that I can on a particular thread and wait for others to respond.

If bumping was aloud, at least more people would return. With the exception of the last couple days, ever since I joined this forum, I feel there has been a trend of less enthusiasm on the forums. Do we need more involvement? Absolutely.



Could you flesh this point out a little more? I never said I want others to stop voting, quite the contrary (just because a threshold is broken, does NOT mean voting needs to stop). In fact, if there is more incentive for each vote to count, then there is a higher turnout. During the mid to late 19th Century in America, the voting turnout would reach well over 80 %, however it is been almost a half century since the voting turnout was over 60 % (both for popular elections). Many people in recent times have become more disillusioned in the importance of their vote.

Preferential or ranked voting systems (such as Instant-runoff Voting or Single-transferable vote) give more involvement in the decision making process.

Here is a streamlined version of my line of thinking so that dissenting arguments will be easier to create in the future:

Suggestion: Improve the voting system on SM forums

P1: Users are complaining about the efficacy of the voting process.
P2: Many of these complaints derive from the voting threshold needed to pass on suggestions to the devs.
P3: There are currently many polls that are just under the limit of "yes" votes to make it to the devs.
P4: Very little is know of what is to come of suggestions once devs are consulted.
P5: Users have no knowledge of how suggestions are prioritized for the devs (assumably first come, first serve).
P6: As threads continue to be created, older threads die out.
P7: This means that luck becomes a powerful determinant in ascertaining which suggestions actually break the threshold.
P8: There is currently no database created to store past votes for threads for either individuals or the collective to view.
∴ Something should be done to maximize the utility (happiness) of everyone (such as creating a more democratic voting system).

edit: By the way, is there any reason to close a thread once an idea makes it way to the devs. If we come up with more ideas, can they not click on the thread/be debriefed on a pressing new suggestion (not a regular thing, but when it is worthwhile)?

i dont see us getting that many votes on a topic anytime soon so i doubt it.

now the thing is why are we making suggestions take the same amount of yes votes from a game thats been up for several years and has been able to get 30 votes without THAT many problems and expect a game thats still in beta to be able to do the same?