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 Post subject: Devastation Swarm (RANT)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:27 am 
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So guys, as you may all know a new update came out which buffed a lot of old weapons:

Death punch is alright, it does more damage but it uses 25 instead of 20 rockets, also some rocket pullers dont use energy anymore, which is okay since they are already super heavy.

BUUUUUUUT, Also, the mythical rocket side weapons have been buffed:
The devastation swarm has gone from 60-105 to 90-160!

Also, it now uses 10 rockets instead of 15... lets compare.

Armor breaker mark 2:
20 bullets
90-155 damage
1 use
7 resistance drain

Devastation swarm:
10 rockets
90-160 damage
unlimited uses
3 resistance drain

As you can see, this monstrosity uses ONLY 10 ROCKETS ánd has unlimted uses ánd has SUPERIOR damage to an armor breaker...

Please nerf it a small bit to:
15 rockets
90-120 damage
3 resistance drain

Because this will get to be the new OP mythical. but now it has been buffed to an incredibily overpowered level: it does twice the amount of damage than a needle blaster.

If you see this moderator/admin: please tell me why you had to buff it to this extreme level. and tell me if you are going to nerf it or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Devastation Swarm (RANT)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:48 am 
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It's Metal Shredder not Devas...

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 Post subject: Re: Devastation Swarm (RANT)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:15 am 
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Okay, these are some good points. They might have buffed it a little too much. But there are still alot of people that uses a double lava sprayer build. Don't even get me started about the infernal axes.

Also, don't forget for the fact that this weapon generates 15 heat, unlike the Needle Blaster that doesn't generate any heat.

So the main weakness of this newly buffed weapon will be the infernal axes/lava sprayer combo, as players using the axes will be able to pin down the players using the MS (Metal Shredder) to range 1, un-abling them to use the weapon. (If you think about it)

It's obvious that mechs will have a rock/paper/scissor mechanism wherein:

Physical beats Energy
Energy beats Heat
Heat beats Physical

People will then be forced to have thoughts on making their next move (particularly those with Metal Shredders)

Here are also some advantages the armor breaker has:

It has far more range than of the MS
Doesn't generate heat
Has Knockback (which will be really useful in certain circumstances)

There are also people using the old rocket mech where it is using a Death Punch/Fire Wall/Back Stabber Mk. II which can annihilate Metal Shredders due to the high heat and insane damage it deals.

So yes, there are many ways to counter it, it just needs the right minds to operate it. ;)

Now the battles in Super Mechs will be taken to the next level. Newly buffed weapons, developing newer and more creative mech builds with the newly buffed weapons, and more! It's just great!

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 Post subject: Re: Devastation Swarm (RANT)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:40 am 
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Okay, these are some good points. They might have buffed it a little too much. But there are still alot of people that uses a double lava sprayer build. Don't even get me started about the infernal axes.

Also, don't forget for the fact that this weapon generates 15 heat, unlike the Needle Blaster that doesn't generate any heat.

So the main weakness of this newly buffed weapon will be the infernal axes/lava sprayer combo, as players using the axes will be able to pin down the players using the MS (Metal Shredder) to range 1, un-abling them to use the weapon. (If you think about it)

It's obvious that mechs will have a rock/paper/scissor mechanism wherein:

Physical beats Energy
Energy beats Heat
Heat beats Physical

People will then be forced to have thoughts on making their next move (particularly those with Metal Shredders)

Here are also some advantages the armor breaker has:

It has far more range than of the MS
Doesn't generate heat
Has Knockback (which will be really useful in certain circumstances)

There are also people using the old rocket mech where it is using a Death Punch/Fire Wall/Back Stabber Mk. II which can annihilate Metal Shredders due to the high heat and insane damage it deals.

So yes, there are many ways to counter it, it just needs the right minds to operate it. ;)

Now the battles in Super Mechs will be taken to the next level. Newly buffed weapons, developing newer and more creative mech builds with the newly buffed weapons, and more! It's just great!


Just a quick note here, you know that needle has 2-4 reach as well, so you need to think about it either way.

Another note: armor breaker has only 1 use, this one has unlimited and it uses way less ammo. i already see a lot of build with double shredder, leaving out the armor breaker.

Double lava spray? just pop on 3 heat controls and your set, pop on another rocket module which doesnt even have to be a mythical because of the low use of rockets.
Still got 3 left for armor modules.

Also, it is WAY lighter than the needle and does double damage, this is by far the best physical item in the game which literally SHREDS through heat, energy and easily through physical builds.

Heat: pop on 2 heat controls, and you still do the massive damage of around 260 + drone.

Energy? easy peasy, it doesnt use energy

Physical build? it kills double needle, armor breakers and ultranova's and physical monster.

Just to prove some things here: it already is being overused at this point of time just 12 hours after the update.

This shows how good the item is: you only need one ammo module and you're set for a game. also deals MORE damage than an armor breaker, which again uses more bullets and has one use. Doesnt use energy, makes space for more modules to pop on because of the low ammo consumption resulting in high cooldown.

welp, this really turned out to be a rant.

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 Post subject: Re: Devastation Swarm (RANT)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:40 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Devastation Swarm (RANT)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:27 pm 
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If it's so good then show me the new overpowered mechs using it.

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 Post subject: Re: Devastation Swarm (RANT)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:18 pm 
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I agree, these things are quite OP now. Here's something to think about, the metal shredders were comparable to needle blasters before the buff. Now, after the buff, this thing can be compared to an armor breaker (don't forget, this is infinite use as well), and it weighs LESS than needle blasters (by quite a lot too).

I do think the mythical rocket launcher line needed a bit of a buff but this is a bit too much. A middle ground between the old and new values would be ideal.

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 Post subject: Re: Devastation Swarm (RANT)
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:14 am 
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If it's so good then show me the new overpowered mechs using it.




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Funny how you do not call it OP, while you use it as well.
This is only a few i found, and there are a LOT more people who use it, and top players will start to use it as well, as soon as the armor breaker begins to get irrelevant, which it is getting at this point.

If you ask me to find out how OP it is, you can too yourself.

Well then. someone other wants to prove me wrong to say this isnt the best physical weapon which shreds through other types?

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 Post subject: Re: Devastation Swarm (RANT)
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:49 am 
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Its called metal shredder

But yeah its so OP its stupid


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 Post subject: Re: Devastation Swarm (RANT)
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:03 am 
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Lol :lol:

Alright you got me! It's op. Now let's all get down and our hands and knees and beg for it to be nerfed.

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