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Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE?? Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:46 pm |
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Again that is a step backwards into a version of this game which has no future. Now the game is doing better and has a future so suggest ways to improve the good features in it. I don't understand why you wouldn't want to leave your mark on this game. You have the opportunity here to put in your suggestions your input and probably have a much higher chance of getting it into the game since it is in beta now. If the game were set in stone it would be much harder to make changes without affecting the feel of the game but right now you can make changes. You can make suggestions and you can help mold the future of this game. It simply baffles me that you would rather say it all sucks go back to before than to grasp this opportunity.
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Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE?? Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:56 pm |
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maybe your baffled because you arent looking at it the way a lot of other people are, back then there was more variety and we could play at different levels all the time. right now i am stuck at 1 lvl and i play the same people ALL THE TIME. and to change that we have to go in a complete different direction, i talk to liran about a few things on skype on my opinions to help balance the game as it is now. but how things are i dont think i will ever enjoy the game as much as i did in the past
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Mike
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Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE?? Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:01 pm |
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So make your suggestions to change that, see how easy that was?  Tearing everything down after an update is never an option really and there are positive things in the update so work with those while suggesting how to fix the parts you think are weak. That is making improvements.
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Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE?? Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:26 pm |
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Korupt wrote: So make your suggestions to change that, see how easy that was?  Tearing everything down after an update is never an option really and there are positive things in the update so work with those while suggesting how to fix the parts you think are weak. That is making improvements. tbh i think it would have been better to make 1 small update at a time. making a big update like this now threw everything off balance and screwed a lot of players. and really right now as it is idk how the variety can come back and noobs wont be demolished when they hit higher lvls
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Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE?? Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:41 pm |
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Mike
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Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE?? Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:47 pm |
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From looking at the things that changed the most I don't think it is something that really could have been done piece by piece. It was sort of an all or nothing thing since so many parts are tied to or rely on each other. Something that should be encouraging are the devs are still working on balancing, it is not as if they said here you go new game now we are done with it.  They are making tweaks here and there and they are taking input we just need to give them ideas of what we think would improve the game. This game has a future and it is doing better now than with the old update now we just have to mold it to the finished product that we want.
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Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE?? Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:32 pm |
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Okay here's what to change without doing a full rollback:
1. Make all items available to all players at all times. Yeah make em expensive like before so you gotta grind or whatever, but the "luck" aspect of boxes along with the impossibility of getting lower level equipment needs to go.
2. Fusion needs to be re-worked. Honestly I don't know how, but it's obvious that everyone is just buying up hundreds of level 1 legs and fusing them to max stuff out. It's like the lamest mini-game in the history of gaming... sorry, but I do like fusion core, just not the implementation.
Perhaps make it so you can only fuse equipment that's a higher level than the item being upgrades. That way you won't have the level 1 leg pointlessness going on where one guy has fully upgrades equipment just because he put in some hours in the mini-game.
3. Weapon balancing - swords need some updating, but we know that and it'll happen.
4. Someone mentioned rockets are OP.. yeah that's probably right. I can't even use a manual shutdown to cool off enough heat to even keep up with one turn of rocket barrages.
5. Consider putting bullets/rockets back on torsos. I don't think it was a good idea to take them off - you had variety before, now you just have all rocket builds or all energy builds.
6. Well the top dudes won't like this... but really it's discouraging when the same few people dominate the leader boards. Set up handicaps. Yes this is penalizing you for being better than everyone else... and if you're actually better, it won't matter much will it?
7. See #1.
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Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE?? Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:53 pm |
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what do you mean handicaps?
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Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE?? Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:05 pm |
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lilconquer wrote: what do you mean handicaps? Very minor adjustments to damage taken or damage dealt. I wouldn't put them in effect during someone's winning streak - heaven forbid we mess that up before a bug does - but eventually based on some function of superiority. Whether that be maintaining within the top X number of weekly players, winning X number of weekly 1st, 2nd, 3rd prizes, or even based on winning streaks... ie you do X less damage per attack per 50 games won in a row, to begin after your first loss... so if you hit 150 wins in a row, you do 3X less damage. Maybe offset this with higher winnings. So you get more credits and exp if you win despite having a handicap in place.
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Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE?? Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:17 pm |
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tbh i think that is a bit much. i understand balance is important but you cant punish someone simply because they are good
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