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malicewolf
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Post subject: Re: Dear Supermechs players, Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:22 am |
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Ogonna wrote: Quote: But first and foremost, player's should be respectful of one another. So when someone threatens to kill me, that's respectful? Quote: If you have an issue with a player or harassment of any sort, please PM one of the staff You might wonder why I post on forums instead of taking my complaints to the developers. I used to do that, in private email. Nothing was ever done despite the massive instances of abusive behavior - and I'm not talking about cheating, which has happened and is proven. I'm talking about foul, abusive language (in English and German), curses, threats to my family and me, and my clan members. The level of harassment my clan members and I face is unthinkable. One of my clan members - "gladiator" - was told to "die b****". A screenshot was sent to developers to report that. Nothing was done, so it was posted on this forum; you probably saw it. In any other game, this would be dealt with immediately. After one instance of a death threat, the player would be banned. That goes far beyond plain rudeness or "gamesmanship" - it's bordering on illegal. Nothing is ever done, because this person pays thousands of dollars to the game. He/she/it essentially owns the game and the people in charge. Anyone who has the power to do something and doesn't should be ashamed. I apologize that nothing has been done (or at least nothing that you can see). I cannot personally say if anything has been done as I do not know. However, I can say that contacting the development team would not get you the results you are looking for unfortunately. The development teams job is not to ban players or to maintain the community. It's to develop and improve the game for the players enjoyment. It's a shame (from what I know) that it was not directed to our community manager (however, once again, I cannot say for absolute certain that it has or has not, but the fact that nothing was done or said is sad to hear). However, my first statement should still hold true. We all need to be respectful to one another. If they aren't to you, it doesn't mean you should immediately insult them back. As they say, two wrongs don't make a right (3 left's do though  ) I am very sorry to hear that someone is threatening you though and that is not behavior we accept. I will do my best to see if I can't help in these matters moving forward. My knowledge of SM is limited as I am on the BD side of things, but regardless of the game, certain behaviors should be stopped. No player is above the rules. If something similar happens again, please PM me or if you have skype, you can feel free to reach out to me there: I will do my best to make sure this is looked at more seriously moving forward.
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Ogonna
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Post subject: Re: Dear Supermechs players, Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:34 am |
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Quote: However, I can say that contacting the development team would not get you the results you are looking for unfortunately So I have no avenue of reporting his behavior, since apparently moderators have no power and developers have no power. I have no idea how a game can't have a system to deal with abusive/unfair behavior but apparently not much thought was put into it. I'll wait until something can be done.
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malicewolf
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Post subject: Re: Dear Supermechs players, Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:44 am |
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Ogonna wrote: Quote: However, I can say that contacting the development team would not get you the results you are looking for unfortunately So I have no avenue of reporting his behavior, since apparently moderators have no power and developers have no power. I have no idea how a game can't have a system to deal with abusive/unfair behavior but apparently not much thought was put into it. I'll wait until something can be done. malicewolf wrote: The development teams job is not to ban players or to maintain the community. It's to develop and improve the game for the players enjoyment. It's a shame (from what I know) that it was not directed to our community manager.
It is the community manager's job to ensure these items are taken care of immediately by our staff. I can say that we are undergoing changes in terms of that position though, so that could very well be part of the issue. As I said though, I am personally going to do my best to get these issues dealt with, however, I have no info, screenshots, etc. to do anything with. I am on the BD side, not the SM, so I am not as familiar with the SM's escalation process for dealing with all of these issues, but I can safely assume they should be similar to the BD side. I do not want our community to believe that we are not taking you seriously, but as I said, the dev team's job is not to deal with the community. That is the job of the community manager, whom should be telling our admin's what actions to take in such matters. I cannot do anything about the past. So if something similar happens to you again, please message me in PM or on skype and I will ensure that it gets escalated upwards. However, that is the only thing I can do for you. It is up to you to accept my offer or not.
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Post subject: Re: Dear Supermechs players, Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:45 am |
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@ Malicewolf ...
Just ask Ilona about what she had to delete ... (I NEVER saw one screenshot (made from Ogonna) which had to be deleted)
That Ilona wrote at the position of the screenshot after she removed it ... EDIT: No words are needed, you are right. Thanks for showing BPOTW, but I had to remove it.
I hope, no one will be able to show such a screenshot again and certain Top-Players are able to behave in future. Its about common sense in such a global game. We are coming from all countries of the world and such comments are really misplaced in a game thats meant to be fun. Racism, fouled language, anti-female, and also Real life issues should stay out. The game is played from people of all ages, and therefore especially the mature players should take care of their language as well as their behavior in-game and at the forum. Thx!
- Ilona
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Ogonna
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Post subject: Re: Dear Supermechs players, Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:48 am |
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Any help would be appreciated. If it's fine by you, I'll add you on skype.
I have hundreds of screenshots and I am very happy to provide you with them.
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malicewolf
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Post subject: Re: Dear Supermechs players, Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:00 am |
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Best - It is Ilona's birthday today, so she is unavailable at the moment to answer and I personally did not see the post.
Ogonna - Please do. I'll be happy to help where I can.
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Post subject: Re: Dear Supermechs players, Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:35 am |
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bestplayeroftheworld is right oh shut up ogonnak plz do u only have a go at best beacuse your a show off dood! Seriously dont get yourselves banned over a stupid battle! Llona doesnt want any trouble on her birthday! she could just turn and around tell liran and michael and they could just shut downt the game! Whats the saying, oh yeh Respect your Admins People!
NO MORE SAID FANG456
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malicewolf
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Post subject: Re: Dear Supermechs players, Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:46 am |
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Fang456 wrote: bestplayeroftheworld is right oh shut up ogonnak plz do u only have a go at best beacuse your a show off dood! Seriously dont get yourselves banned over a stupid battle! Llona doesnt want any trouble on her birthday! she could just turn and around tell liran and michael and they could just shut downt the game! Whats the saying, oh yeh Respect your Admins People!
NO MORE SAID FANG456 Appreciate the effort, but please do not antagonize either And Ilona would not simply tell Michael and Liran to shut the game down. It wouldn't go down like that, I can promise But I will agree, please respect our staff. Everyone on the staff are part of it because we love this community. Some are paid, many are not (none of your mod staff are paid, they are here because they simply love the game and want to help). But we are still human beings as well As I said before, if another issue arises, please contact me and I will escalate it appropriately. But please also keep in mind, answers won't always be immediate. Everyone has their own life to attend to and sometimes we need a little time.
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Post subject: Re: Dear Supermechs players, Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:49 am |
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Malice what i meant was if it got serious their last conclusion would be to do that!
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malicewolf
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Post subject: Re: Dear Supermechs players, Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:54 am |
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Fang456 wrote: Malice what i meant was if it got serious their last conclusion would be to do that! No, they'd most likely simply ban both. However, we aren't tyrants either. We do believe in second chances for everyone (sometimes even third, and fourth and so on). But in all honesty, even if we ban, people can create a new account and repeat as well. But, we would not shut the game down without a serious matter coming into play. Best and Ogonna's fights are by no means such a reason. I'd personally like to avoid all this though and simply work things out by everyone simply respecting one another. Friendly rivalry is great, but don't cross that line into harassment please. If there is a serious issue such as cheating, we will look into it and act appropriately. Usually if no action was taken, it's because there was not a sufficient reason to ban.
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