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Aeacus · **Posted:** Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:01 am

I was skeptical about this update and i was right. Things go from bad to worse.

1. I had 5 mech before, but since i was lvl86, i'm now lvl30 and all my 4 other mechs became obselete.
2. The items i had, all gave only 10 points in fusion core, regardless of their rarity or level. If i'd buy common item from store, i can get even more fusion points out of those than i did got from my current items.
3. Item box costs too much to be affordable. 189,855 for 1 box? Really? And only 1% of a change to get rare, epic or legenday item from it.
4. Upgrading items take way too much money. And after each upgrade level, the fusion points you need for next upgrade level is doubled. Not to mention the pitiful upgrade bonus per upgrade level.
5. All weapons will do fixed amount of damage. No more min or max damage anymore.
6. Cash award for winning is also reduced. 2,450 for winning a battle at lvl30, really? Basically, income has been reduced while expenses have been increased.

I have seen countless of changes in online games, but this is probably one of the worst ones i've ever seen.
Right now, i have no desire to play SM anymore. Too much has gone wrong here lately.

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Aeacus

exu · **Joined:** Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:07 am **Posts:** 17

CAIN:

Im whyt you guys the game was better before.

Was funny have more than one mech... now?

Filipas rigth: some guys not have a chance...

Ilona · **Posted:** Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:56 am

Good morning Mech-Pilots

Filipas wrote:

also, the rare, epic and legendary are available just through boxes....and they are expensive....hope you will not let it that way. just the fusion core is cool....the rest...NO.

The costs for the item boxes belongs to your player level. With an high level they are of course more expensive than at the begin.

Dantesinferno wrote:

O.K. a bad idea so now what ??? I have "fused all my rare items and for what? Man I am not looking forward to how this all plays out because I have invested so much of my time into this game and I don't see it ending good or fare at all. I am so hurt by all of you.

Sorry to hear that you don't like it at all.

Dantesinferno wrote:

You know there are real people behind these mechs and you guys just seem to not care about that at all.

We care about all of you and thats why we started to work on this update in the first place. Most of you weren't able to find any opponent on your player level in a reasonable time and used therefore other mechs on lower levels. This was really boring after some time as there was no progress anymore and no achievement in leveling up.

Filipas wrote:

lets call it for now, ok? i m sure that many players knows that the old game was better, and yes, this is beta, they are experimenting, and we must point what is wrong and what is good.

YES! Please feel free to point out what is wrong at any time!
Nothing is set in stone here and we will change what needs to be changed. But also, give yourself and the new update some time to get used to it. Maybe even play the game as 'new player' to see how it looks to you from this point of view.

Aeacus wrote:

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1. I had 5 mech before, but since i was lvl86, i'm now lvl30 and all my 4 other mechs became obselete.
2. The items i had, all gave only 10 points in fusion core, regardless of their rarity or level. If i'd buy common item from store, i can get even more fusion points out of those than i did got from my current items.
3. Item box costs too much to be affordable. 189,855 for 1 box? Really? And only 1% of a change to get rare, epic or legenday item from it.
4. Upgrading items take way too much money. And after each upgrade level, the fusion points you need for next upgrade level is doubled. Not to mention the pitiful upgrade bonus per upgrade level.
5. All weapons will do fixed amount of damage. No more min or max damage anymore.
6. Cash award for winning is also reduced. 2,450 for winning a battle at lvl30, really? Basically, income has been reduced while expenses have been increased.

I have seen countless of changes in online games, but this is probably one of the worst ones i've ever seen.
Right now, i have no desire to play SM anymore. Too much has gone wrong here lately.

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Aeacus

1. why did they became obsolete?
2. we'll take a look. I am not sure of the power level of existing weapons (before the update) can be changed tho
3. Like I said before, the costs belongs to your player level
4., 5., and 6. We wil take a look there too and balance it if needed.

Once again: give it some time. I know that this was a huge change and its not that easy to get used to it when you played SM for a long time.
Feel free to comment here and state your opinion whats good and whats bad and we will see where improvements and tweaks are needed / most wanted.

edit: I heard that a bug sneaked into the cost of the item box on level 30. Sorry for that! Its changed now to the right amount (25% of the previous)

Mike · **Posted:** Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:18 am

I still like finishing moves. :roll:

Filipas · **Joined:** Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:11 pm **Posts:** 248

i think Aecus is meaning by obsolete the fact that his mechs are mostly useless.

Michael · **Posted:** Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:56 am

Hello Aeacus

I agree with almost everything you wrote here. we are working on fixing and balancing these issues.
it has been a very big update, and will require a few days to tweak back the balance.

You're welcome to send me messages directly regarding things you think we should change as we go to: [email protected]

Thanks!
Michael
SM Designer

Aeacus wrote:

I was skeptical about this update and i was right. Things go from bad to worse.

1. I had 5 mech before, but since i was lvl86, i'm now lvl30 and all my 4 other mechs became obselete.
2. The items i had, all gave only 10 points in fusion core, regardless of their rarity or level. If i'd buy common item from store, i can get even more fusion points out of those than i did got from my current items.
3. Item box costs too much to be affordable. 189,855 for 1 box? Really? And only 1% of a change to get rare, epic or legenday item from it.
4. Upgrading items take way too much money. And after each upgrade level, the fusion points you need for next upgrade level is doubled. Not to mention the pitiful upgrade bonus per upgrade level.
5. All weapons will do fixed amount of damage. No more min or max damage anymore.
6. Cash award for winning is also reduced. 2,450 for winning a battle at lvl30, really? Basically, income has been reduced while expenses have been increased.

I have seen countless of changes in online games, but this is probably one of the worst ones i've ever seen.
Right now, i have no desire to play SM anymore. Too much has gone wrong here lately.

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Aeacus

edsonsolt · **Joined:** Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:45 pm **Posts:** 18

The game administrators have used it to their side
taking the rare items and putting comprams in shop

Another thing're horrible this function does not have to change anything is to go shopping itesm merging

I hope they think of something else urgent because if it was not supermechs

Filipas · **Joined:** Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:11 pm **Posts:** 248

also, the power level on the rare epic and legendary items is TOO SMALL, they should have enormous power levels, and when they fuse, they should be like WOW. but is not. Michael, there is no need for private msg, here you can see all the things that are not suposed to be.

Aeacus · **Posted:** Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:31 am

Ilona wrote:

1. why did they became obsolete?
2. we'll take a look. I am not sure of the power level of existing weapons (before the update) can be changed tho
3. Like I said before, the costs belongs to your player level
4., 5., and 6. We wil take a look there too and balance it if needed.

Once again: give it some time. I know that this was a huge change and its not that easy to get used to it when you played SM for a long time.
Feel free to comment here and state your opinion whats good and whats bad and we will see where improvements and tweaks are needed / most wanted.[/color]

edit: I heard that a bug sneaked into the cost of the item box on level 30. Sorry for that! Its changed now to the right amount (25% of the previous)

1. They become obselete because i can only battle with lvl27-lvl30 players, and all those players are using the best available items. My 4 other mehcs were just too weak to battle at that range.
2. I don't think that would make much difference anymore since i used up all my obselete mechs parts in fusion core to upgrade my best mech. And what i got out of all this was lvl3 torso and lvl3 legs. Pitiful.

Not to mention that "Dragon" torso, what used to be the best torso is now only lvl22 Legendary torso. Lvl30 common "Apollo" torso is even better than "Dragon" is.
Since "Dragon" is my best torso, i'm stuck with it. I don't have any money to buy "Apollo" (200K).
Basically, i can't win any multiplayer battles since my torso is also obselete and it's really hard to win NPC battles while facing "Apollo" torso.

It may have been bad before but now, it's most certainly the worst ever.

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Aeacus

edsonsolt · **Joined:** Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:45 pm **Posts:** 18

Ilona wrote:

Good morning Mech-Pilots

Filipas wrote:

also, the rare, epic and legendary are available just through boxes....and they are expensive....hope you will not let it that way. just the fusion core is cool....the rest...NO.

The costs for the item boxes belongs to your player level. With an high level they are of course more expensive than at the begin.

Dantesinferno wrote:

O.K. a bad idea so now what ??? I have "fused all my rare items and for what? Man I am not looking forward to how this all plays out because I have invested so much of my time into this game and I don't see it ending good or fare at all. I am so hurt by all of you.

Sorry to hear that you don't like it at all.

Dantesinferno wrote:

You know there are real people behind these mechs and you guys just seem to not care about that at all.

We care about all of you and thats why we started to work on this update in the first place. Most of you weren't able to find any opponent on your player level in a reasonable time and used therefore other mechs on lower levels. This was really boring after some time as there was no progress anymore and no achievement in leveling up.

Filipas wrote:

lets call it for now, ok? i m sure that many players knows that the old game was better, and yes, this is beta, they are experimenting, and we must point what is wrong and what is good.

YES! Please feel free to point out what is wrong at any time!
Nothing is set in stone here and we will change what needs to be changed. But also, give yourself and the new update some time to get used to it. Maybe even play the game as 'new player' to see how it looks to you from this point of view.

Aeacus wrote:

....
1. I had 5 mech before, but since i was lvl86, i'm now lvl30 and all my 4 other mechs became obselete.
2. The items i had, all gave only 10 points in fusion core, regardless of their rarity or level. If i'd buy common item from store, i can get even more fusion points out of those than i did got from my current items.
3. Item box costs too much to be affordable. 189,855 for 1 box? Really? And only 1% of a change to get rare, epic or legenday item from it.
4. Upgrading items take way too much money. And after each upgrade level, the fusion points you need for next upgrade level is doubled. Not to mention the pitiful upgrade bonus per upgrade level.
5. All weapons will do fixed amount of damage. No more min or max damage anymore.
6. Cash award for winning is also reduced. 2,450 for winning a battle at lvl30, really? Basically, income has been reduced while expenses have been increased.

I have seen countless of changes in online games, but this is probably one of the worst ones i've ever seen.
Right now, i have no desire to play SM anymore. Too much has gone wrong here lately.

--
Aeacus

1. why did they became obsolete?
2. we'll take a look. I am not sure of the power level of existing weapons (before the update) can be changed tho
3. Like I said before, the costs belongs to your player level
4., 5., and 6. We wil take a look there too and balance it if needed.

Once again: give it some time. I know that this was a huge change and its not that easy to get used to it when you played SM for a long time.
Feel free to comment here and state your opinion whats good and whats bad and we will see where improvements and tweaks are needed / most wanted.

edit: I heard that a bug sneaked into the cost of the item box on level 30. Sorry for that! Its changed now to the right amount (25% of the previous)

I see you only see the side of the 10 ranking Filipas etc and nothing more or new comments.

this change did no good because they sell items to the pro shop again my other items became useless all this change was for the worse
sorry speaks tava enjoying playing here was investing more now?
I am the first to abandon playing with people stronger than I have to give is level 6 player playing with player level 30 guy with 150 HP guy playing with 500 HP.

Think and think of an improvement.
very sad with all of you support the idea DantesInferno

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