Well, I do get your point Max.

Although, here are my few points.

1. I didn't follow the gift keys by creating alt accounts, SINCE its my only chance to get a mythical item. Not to mention that I only got 2 Meltdowns and a Mayhem Battery II in my lifetime using gift keys? I only got Lava Scope and my Meteor from campaign.

2. I didn't say that you SMYT CAN get all of the items they want. I only said that "They won't have to regard about this". Why did I say that you ask? Well, here are a few points.

- Every time they reached a certain amount of views etc. etc. they get to ask Liran what mythical item they want. Yes, I know, you all work hard.

- You all are helping to promote SM, which is great!

3. I know people who pay supports the game, but alot are paying now.. Isn't that enough support? just saying.

4. I don't care if no one agrees with me with this topic.

I have some suggestions to help free players.

- All should (whether they missed they new level system or not) receive 2-3 random mythical items.

- Or maybe bring back the old gift key reward? (golden boxes)

By the way Max, you saying that some abused gift keys are way off.

It isn't that abusable.

- You have to wait over a month just to reset a gift key.
- If some others use gift keys wrongly (like me) would take days to get an alt to level 30.
- You only get a golden box, not a guaranteed mythical box.

And if you said that only you and MythicalGG ever got the rewards, didn't TGC (GamingChicken) got a reward? I think he asked metrolens from liran.

If you think people "stole" your gift keys, its not. You gave it, then it isn't finished, only just gave it to a random guy who will stop.

So that's why I use them MY way. But who cares about gift keys now? It only gives you a silver box.

NOTE: No locking, this is quite designed for debates.

I don't see any issue with it being a silver box. I just make sure to give the code away to someone who will play. I'm not complaining about something that was practically free to begin with. I think it's the developers message saying that they want to curve farming boxes. They want more players, not dead side-accounts that rarely see activity. I'm sure there are people with over 100+ side-accounts. @.@

Before I make a few counter points let me just say Im really glad that we're having an intelligent debate and not just mindlessly sending screenshots of the other player losing to kits.
Im also glad that you pointed out that the purpose of this chat was for debate so it doesn't get locked.

So onto my opinions about this. These are responses to your points.

1. I don't mind that free-to-play players are making alts to guarantee that their gift key is fulfilled. But you think that you "only" got yata yata, when really others have had it much worse. I am guilty of making alts to get keys off of, Ill admit to that. But I have never once gotten something in a key that is useful. Oh and my mythical box at the end of the campaign? If you haven't seen that video, I got a ... so yea ... no use to me at all.

2. We (SMYT) do regard this post! You're still acting like it's just "oh well why use keys when in 200 views I get any mythical I want". It isn't like that at all. We are just like you, we want any mythical we can get.

3. No common players will ever know how much Tacticsoft is making off of SM spenders, so we have no right to say "isn't that enough support?", because we have no clue how much is actually turning a profit. By the way, (mods delete this if it shouldn't be here) the developers are not living the big life. Liran lives in an apartment.

4. I totally agree, everyone should get 2 free random mythicals because of the leveling shenanigans. Im sorry to say this, but I disagree entirely with you about gift keys. They are 100% abusable when compared to before the campaign update and etc. 3 gold (now silver) boxes for free every 45 days is way more than 0 boxes every 1,000 days before. Every gift key brought to the box reward via alt is 1 more than before.

About the SMYT reward thing. Note that this may sound like me boosting my ego, but its the truth, sorry.


I made a mistake in saying that people stole my keys when they didn't. I posted my key codes on YT without thinking it through that they may be stolen.

Hope you see my side.

Warr is absolute right

In every point he mentioned