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 Post subject: Re: Problem wikipedia?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:49 pm 
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The SOPA isn't just some normal anti-piracy act to america. What I've heard is that it will threaten any site that features content anywhere else other than on the original sites. Sites such as Danbooru and YouTube could be shut down if even one unauthorized content is found there. Not just those, even Google and Yahoo are at risk.

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Opponents have warned that SOPA would have a negative impact on online communities. Journalist Rebecca MacKinnon argued in an op-ed that making companies liable for users' actions could have a chilling effect on user-generated sites such as YouTube. "The intention is not the same as China’s Great Firewall, a nationwide system of Web censorship, but the practical effect could be similar," she says. The Electronic Freedom Foundation (EFF) warned that websites Etsy, Flickr and Vimeo all seemed likely to shut down if the bill becomes law. Policy analysts for New America Foundation say this legislation would enable law enforcement to take down an entire domain due to something posted on a single blog, arguing, "an entire largely innocent online community could be punished for the actions of a tiny minority."

Additional concerns include the impact on common Internet functions such as linking or access data from the cloud. EFF claimed the bill would ban linking to sites deemed offending, even in search results and on services such as Twitter. Christian Dawson, Chief Operating Officer (COO) of Virginia-based hosting company ServInt, predicted that the legislation would lead to many cloud computing and Web hosting services moving out of the US to avoid lawsuits. The Electronic Frontier Foundation have stated that the requirement that any site must self-police user generated content would impose significant liability costs and explains "why venture capitalists have said en masse they won’t invest in online startups if PIPA and SOPA pass."

But surely american law enforcement can't shut down a website which is legal in another country...?

Anyway. It won't pass.


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 Post subject: Re: Problem wikipedia?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:59 pm 
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If something like NDAA could get passed, I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate to pass this into law too.


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 Post subject: Re: Problem wikipedia?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:14 pm 
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Diazepam wrote:
MikiMikiU wrote:
The SOPA isn't just some normal anti-piracy act to america. What I've heard is that it will threaten any site that features content anywhere else other than on the original sites. Sites such as Danbooru and YouTube could be shut down if even one unauthorized content is found there. Not just those, even Google and Yahoo are at risk.

The important part:
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Websites that host user content

Opponents have warned that SOPA would have a negative impact on online communities. Journalist Rebecca MacKinnon argued in an op-ed that making companies liable for users' actions could have a chilling effect on user-generated sites such as YouTube. "The intention is not the same as China’s Great Firewall, a nationwide system of Web censorship, but the practical effect could be similar," she says. The Electronic Freedom Foundation (EFF) warned that websites Etsy, Flickr and Vimeo all seemed likely to shut down if the bill becomes law. Policy analysts for New America Foundation say this legislation would enable law enforcement to take down an entire domain due to something posted on a single blog, arguing, "an entire largely innocent online community could be punished for the actions of a tiny minority."

Additional concerns include the impact on common Internet functions such as linking or access data from the cloud. EFF claimed the bill would ban linking to sites deemed offending, even in search results and on services such as Twitter. Christian Dawson, Chief Operating Officer (COO) of Virginia-based hosting company ServInt, predicted that the legislation would lead to many cloud computing and Web hosting services moving out of the US to avoid lawsuits. The Electronic Frontier Foundation have stated that the requirement that any site must self-police user generated content would impose significant liability costs and explains "why venture capitalists have said en masse they won’t invest in online startups if PIPA and SOPA pass."

But surely american law enforcement can't shut down a website which is legal in another country...?

Anyway. It won't pass.

They can, because if it was based in the US, it goes under US rules. It's like how some videos in YouTube aren't available in other countries.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem wikipedia?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:18 pm 
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They can, because if it was based in the US, it goes under US rules. It's like how some videos in YouTube aren't available in other countries.


I think he means websites based on other countries.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem wikipedia?
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MmCm6 wrote:
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They can, because if it was based in the US, it goes under US rules. It's like how some videos in YouTube aren't available in other countries.


I think he means websites based on other countries.

Oh, well, I'm not sure about that, I bet they could, though. Kind of like how if you come into China as a homosexual, you can still get arrested by Chinese law.

On the subject of it passing or not, it doesn't seem like it will. A lot of people I know who live in the US are against it, and tons of sites are on black-out in protest. The Whitehouse is even against it.

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Only the certain languages for Wikipedia that chose to help protest are going black lol You don't have to be in the US to just help support the cause.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem wikipedia?
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Yes, it says that only English Wiki is blacked out, so I can read the Chinese Wiki fine. :3

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 Post subject: Re: Problem wikipedia?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:20 am 
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Yes, it says that only English Wiki is blacked out, so I can read the Chinese Wiki fine. :3


Google translate for chrome can Translate whole pages ^-^ Muahahahaha

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MikiMikiU wrote:
Yes, it says that only English Wiki is blacked out, so I can read the Chinese Wiki fine. :3


Google translate for chrome can Translate whole pages ^-^ Muahahahaha

Google Translate is so inaccurate, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem wikipedia?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:25 am 
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Wikipedia's attempt at showing the world what it would be like without wikipedia... Fail.

It's supposed to be a message, not a denial of service. Wikipedia stated themselves that you could access the mobile version or the java script disabled version.

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