Yes Earth is harder... They just have ALOT more competition and they are alot bigger and alot harder to control all of the land.
So yes thats what i'm saying...
And jasper how many times must we say no one is even trying in IV.. I'm glad your not with us either.. If it takes you this long to comprehend that no one was trying or active in IV and you can't understand that after countless posts (about 8 pages)
I'm glad too....

I swear, I've been watching and this is getting irritating. ISKC backstabbed, this caused the downfall of IV and TH.



Listent to what this guy said EVERYONE, especially ISKC. Cause its the truth.

I have friends in ISKC who even admitted they backstab. But for some reason you guys are just continuing to make excuses.

Good for you, I got kicked... Go ask your leader why

You got kicked becuase you gave him the ok to...
Also yes, earth WOULD be easier for a sub empire to grow... Yet with the talent in alliances on earth's no one has had to do that so far...
They would be crushed so fast due to the talent on the earth worlds...
Next thing, we spend time here because we are active on the forums......
Unlike on F3.. We come here and spread this so everyone hears and knows about it.. So everyone can see how incompetent a leader murari is and also they can see how ISKC really plays. (With backstabs and sub abuse)
We are not here to "aid" our reputation.. Just to destroy ISKC's for their lieing and cheap tactics (Not really though)

Sure i could have "fired" people up.. Whats the point though?
No one wanted to play and we were all focused on other rounds including me. Why would I waste time writing a mass that no one would follow... Including myself
Seems pointless to me

I got kicked because a fail order (which I predicted to fail) failed (OMFG!) getting me conquered and my army killed. He requested my permission to kick me, I gave it to him because if he'd want to do that, I wouldn't want to serve under him anyhow...



Oh really? So you're telling my KoTu and IV weren't talented...? Good to hear that ! And I admit, Neko and KoR weren't sub empires

The competition on a few Earth Worlds are very limited, it's true that some players go pure earth, but Fantasy has less players. My guess is the % of top players on Fantasy is around the same (if not higher) as the percentage of top players on earth worlds... And no, I do not play Fantasy a lot.


You could come on F3 and play to, you could PROVE the world how incompetent Murari is. Besides the stabs, he didn't to that bad of a job. His kill-death ratio is pretty damn nice. And commanding a sub empire takes skill to, try it yourself if you wish. There is a reason why Tabula isn't considered an incompetent sub abuser. (I am not saying Murari is anything to Tabula, Tabula can use people like Murari to clean his butt if he pleases)



Then don't play and don't whine and don't expect us to respect a NAP with an alliance of players who can't even be a***** to properly fight a war... Seriously... Hero...

You got kicked and lost your army because you weren't active....
And I'm saying KoTU and IV wouldn't be as good as they were on earth worlds.. Not saying their bad or anything just saying on earth they wouldn't have been as good as they are.

I'm saying he's incompetent due to his inability to tell his alliance terms of NAP's and so on.. Not saying he fails at leading and has no stategy.. In no way did I say that because surprisingly his strategy wasn't horrible, wasn't the best but wasn't horrible. And his KDR(kill death ratio) is only good due to backstabs. He backstabbed last era and again this era.. Thing is jasper. I don't even want subs. Subs are dumb. Unlike you i'm not putting together an alliance that will have 50 subs..
I hate subs and would never lead subs and never want to have the "skill" of leading a sub empire due to the fact subs are looked down on.

And Ok... First off, how would you know we're inactive?
Second, I'm pretty sure most people hold up NAP's even if the alliance is inactive...
We played to see how good we could do without trying.. We proved we could do decent..
Last, the war was not proper to start.. First off you started it with a backstab... Second, NO ONE WAS ACTIVE..
Plus, I still see one IV member unconquered.

i had 3 worlds to plann for and just started to work, so i haven't been active

yes we had better roster, they had MASS donator, 14000 tokens just to the other people in the alliance just from emperor + what he used for himself!

this were my first round donating on NC, but nothing close to that

and when all of our roster went inactive because of other worlds they won ^,^

That's a lie, I logged in plenty and I was doing decently before I lost my army. I got inactive AFTER and as I told Zal, I was going to concentrate on making buildings before going for conquers again. (Which worked for me.. As always.)

Well, I sincerely disagree with that... The rosters alone is enough to say a big no to that... Sure, on Earth it would be fighting for top 3, instead of #1, but on Earth there are far more alliances, it's bigger scaled...




That's a single diplomatical mistake... You should state whether you got an Allies Clausule or not, yeah, but on lot's of games it's a standard you do...



Errr, you had some time to retreat your troops =| You could have costed them more score then them you, may I remind you an MSN conversation of you stating you'd do some damage with your superior tactics and all...

Well, I didn't see ISKC drop in score...

DONT judge subs like that. Subs if used correctly can give newbies a fair chance of learning the game. I personally think sub empire wars are loads of fun. I stopped subbing on all but 1 world, because I rather have a quality roster praised for skill then several alliances and being smashed for being a (even though possibly successful) sub commander while commanding a sub empire is far more complicated then a usual alliance..


We will use a system to systematically conquer a world, my entire purpose is to prove a different way of subbing and be the first to conquer a world completely...



The majority of players probably don't look down on sub empires, just not the forum players.



I know more of your alliance then half of your members... Half of IV is friend with me....



Usually, depends on the situation. I personally don't ever backstab, but I have to say your making an elephant out of a little mouse... I find that this backstab is being overestimated. Only because some forum members want to see blood, where alliances like Arch did far worse things and got little attention...



Oh really...? That wasn't exactly IV's entry line to me... I vaguely remember Zal speaking about getting some tokens...? I must be confuzzled!


1:. A backstab which probably didn't make to much of a difference.
2:. Every time you say that sentence, you look more like a monkey. We couldn't care less for your activity, it's your responsibility were you play and how active you play.

That's like saying "I ONLY AM BELOW TOP 10 BECAUSE I AM IN THE #20 alliance". Ofcourse that's oftenly the case, getting part of a top alliance is part of this game...


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Congratz, you won.

He's going to kill us all!

I look like a monkey?
I'm proving my point which clearly you cannot comprehend..
Sure we choose our activity and we chose not to be active here.
Its not like we were going balls to the wall to win..
The war was easy again because we didn't really even care.
And when I saw you in the first 2 days.. You were inactive compared to everyone else.
We HAD time... But when you don't care and are inactive theres almost no point. I did do some damage.. Emperor's power went down about 20..
Thats good enough for me.
And subs CAN be used to teach newbies the game. In ISKC's case and many others, thats not what they are there for.
And i know plenty of people who look down on subs.
And yes half of the alliance was friends with you... Doesn't mean they tell you when they are and are not on.

Next, ARCH got plenty of attention on the forums.. 1 topic for them 1 topic for this backstab.
And how am i making this an elephant out of a mouse? I'm saying this was a backstab and proving my points..

And that wasn't our beginning intent.. Our intent to begin with was play to win but then ISKC starting abusing subs.. Then they backstabbed..
we made our choice to not try before the backstab..
And again.. The backstab did make a difference as it does in every case.. The whole war was a huge backstab.. Not just one moment but all 100 ticks of it was.. or however many ticks it was
And what are you talking about with the below top 10 thing?

And you never know... He might
Thats not even my point.. But again you evidently can't see the point ..
My point is that IV is not completely dead.

Plus, your sticking up for ISKC because your in their sub..

Lmao, I logged in every midday and usually mornings to.

Shut it

Errr, according to Zal, you were planning on going all out on that world.



That's one player.... And if you don't care to fight properly, don't care to come on forums and whine about it.



Because forum people are the ones who actively use MSN...

Well, they gave me the chance you didn't give me....


They did.



With far less posts and whining... Possibly because XXIV consisted of players who could respect the fact they got defeated, and didn't feel like dragging it out for days...?


Your making this sound like the backstab of the century, posting actively and watching this topic more then natural.

Sorry man, but to my opinion, this isn't one of the worst stabs... Not by far. Yes it might have had the most attention...


So what, your rivals bring out a weapon you don't enjoy and you quit the fight instead of going hardcore with your own...?



You had enough time to get home, unlike with other backstabs were your conquered or just f----- before your units arrive.



Ask someone else, I don't enjoy repeating myself...



IV is utterly defeated, that player does not have anything close to the skill needed to put up a decent fight. If it was Kane, Renee or Unky, i'd be a bit worried. But even they would fall....



I am sticking up for ISKC because I have been watching this topic and I am dead sick of all the bs-ing done by both, my friends and my foes. By both, my own alliance and IV.

I am not loyal to Murari, if KC3 decided to attack ISKC, I will be the first to launch an assault. It's KC3 that gave me my chance, which I am thankful for....