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JadenMDL
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:35 am |
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AceSoldier wrote: My science teacher doesnt even believe in that theory. As you all told me there is not enough evidence i believe all yhose scientists,,, out ther are more qualified than your teacher... plus big bang theory has more proof than existance of God has... but really if you believe in god, why do you kill... you should not eat non-veg at all and even kill a fly....... Human race is all about a race.... yeah survival for the fittest... even a God somehow sneaked we wont think twice before using a God as a stepping stone... GOds were created to set human morals values.. no one knows if there's a God or not... If you see the God we all dont believe you... if you show me the God... everyone will not believe me... So its all about mind-set and moral values... Rather than God, what is questionable is there something called Luck... IF there is, Luck is the true GOD and punishes all those who dont go by its rules
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:52 am |
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Quote: Dont tell me the big bang theory Why? What do you have against the big bang theory? Do you have any substantial proof against it? On the other hand, the big bang theory does not explain the creation of earth. It only explains the creation of the universe, as we know it today. The reason the big bang theory has validity, or one of the reasons is because of the Doppler shift that is characteristic of any wave phenomena. When it comes to light, for example if you move very quickly towards a traffic light glowing red, if you are at the right speed, you might see it green. Of course, the speed required might be great, and may not be feasible to test it in real life, but in the universe almost everything moves at great speed. The big bang theory says that the universe was formed by a huge explosion that sent Galaxies, nebulae, stars etc flying outward. This expansion causes changes in wave phenomena, especially light and these changes are used to measure distances. This is what the hubble telescope for example uses. Therefore, backtracking, scientists have found that at some point, the distances between all masses in the universe must have been 0. Hence the Big bang theory. Now Earth on the other hand formed together by accumulation of masses, because of gravitational force. At one point, this mass must have been huge enough to trap gases, chemicals etc which inturn formed a very hot core. This hot core frequently erupted releasing gases that further got trapped cuz of Earths gravity, slowly forming a life sustaining planet. This first causes unicellular organisms, which kept evolving into various animals and even human beings. This is how creation happened. We all know dinosaurs lived before human beings. So if the world began with the Genesis, where God created man, then God should have created Dinosaurs at the same time...right? But this isnt the case. Also, man went through several series of evolution himself. From early man, to neanderthals to modern homo sapiens. So which did God create? Did he create early man or did he create modern man? Your creationist theory cant explain any of this, only saying that everything magically appeared. It probably sells cuz it doesnt need any intelligence lol Quote: My science teacher doesnt even believe in that theory. As you all told me there is not enough evidence How qualified is your science teacher? And why does his opinion have to matter anyway? Your teacher is wrong.
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:29 pm |
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theory is called theory becuz they are not facts. Just some thing ppl think of to explain several phenomenons. One theory is widely accepted is becuz it has validity and it proves (and be proven) by lots of scientific facts, or theories.
Have to say, god exists is another theory. However, the only proof is the bible which is not a valid proof. Hell, I can hold myself a Dragon Ball volumn 1 and call that is the proof that god exist.
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:57 pm |
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The big bang theory is not just a hypothesis. Its a theory that has proof. But research is not yet complete. It is ongoing, and it is a work in progress. My argument is that just because something is a work in progress does not mean "magic" is valid.
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:09 pm |
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alright, read most of the last 4ish pages and here are a few brief statements:
1. Aliens? i'm sure theres life out there besides us, but has it been to earth? i doubt it.
2. Reptar dude's response to me, The bible doesn't have to be even the smallest bit valid to prove its right. All it has to be, is good at controlling the minds of unintelligent people, and lets face it... there weren't that many smart people prior to the renaissance.
3. How many times has the Christian religion been proven wrong? They once said that earth was the center of the solar system, science proved them wrong, so what makes me think that a book written by men 2000 years ago is absolutely right?
4. The big bang theory has more evidence of it's existence then god does. It makes a lot more sense then blindly following something.
did i miss anything?
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:07 am |
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LOL! Were talking about god then Big Bang theory then aliens im going to add SUPERMAN exists!
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:06 am |
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We are talking about the big bang to refute creationism. What part of the argument didnt you follow? Being a theist, am sure you dont much follow anything scientific. Probably thats why the easiest of all options. Magic!!
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:25 am |
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mfreak wrote: The big bang theory is not just a hypothesis. Its a theory that has proof. That gets my vote.
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:26 am |
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Quote: So its all about mind-set and moral values... Rather than God, what is questionable is there something called Luck...
IF there is, Luck is the true GOD and punishes all those who dont go by its rules how come none relplied to this awesome idea.....
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:45 am |
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mfreak wrote: We are talking about the big bang to refute creationism. What part of the argument didnt you follow? Being a theist, am sure you dont much follow anything scientific. Probably thats why the easiest of all options. Magic!! Hey! There is still more theories you know, not just the big bang so what are they? Excuse me?My grad in math here is 95/100 in my report card and i have been best in Science so in math. So i follow alot of science here.
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