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									 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?  Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:55 am   | 
				 
				 
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						ghossfeld88 wrote: What's the point? everyone just finds something to disprove it, and I am not trying to argue. 
  I can't prove it. I just have Faith. you dont need to prove it, you need to defend yourself intellectually and rationally. if someone presents something compelling, as opposed to ignoring it and saying "well... i have faith and i guess that's that." you should read up, school up, come back and present problems. right now there are plenty of tautalogical ones, dilemmas that others have to answer to, but rather then actually learning up and making some interesting discussion, you slink away. i have been on the internet for years. im not disillusioned about the quality of debate on here. that said, there was one guy that held my interest and tbh, it ended as a draw since it got to the point where philosophically, we were on a ledge, on one side was absolute nihilism, on the other, more nihilism (can we even trust our senses?). that was good discussion. bad debate but wonderfully good discussion as both sides had points to argue, points to toss at one another. WWII was not religiously motivated. that said, hitler still needed good relations with the catholic church since most of europe was catholic at the time.  patric77 wrote: Babies don't go to heaven? Discuss. no one goes to heaven  /thread  
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									 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?  Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:16 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						mrducky wrote: patric77 wrote: Babies don't go to heaven? Discuss. everyone goes to heaven  /thread correct  
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									 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?  Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:18 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						 since I'm a Masochist I prefer going to hell
  joke... not? 
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									 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?  Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:20 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						YesNoMaybe wrote: Just because the debate has been ridiculously one-sided (mostly because anyone arguing on the side of God, can't do so well) doesn't mean it is "thrashing". There has only been one guy in this topic arguing on the side of god, that has put up coherent, organized rebuttals, even if flawed. Everyone else has called Atheists ignorant (as if    ) or that we must repent for our sins, or suffer the fate of hell or something like that. Guess what. Doesn't work. And it hardly strengthens your argument. hmmm, personally i don't like atheists or Christians. I think any form of religion is pointless  
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									 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?  Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:21 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						aister wrote: since I'm a Masochist I prefer going to hell
  joke... not? I agree with taht first part!  
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									 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?  Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:25 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						 Because the baby is not yet fully developed, so it has no fear of pain or death.[/quote] so u say it's ok to kill the baby, just becuz they have no fear of pain or death?[/quote]
  No it is immoral to kill a human being. However a child has no sense of moral or belief. 
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									 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?  Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:39 am   | 
				 
				 
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						felgrand08 wrote: YesNoMaybe wrote: ... hmmm, personally i don't like atheists or Christians. I think any form of religion is pointless saying atheism is a religion is like saying 'Off' is a TV channel. or that 'not playing basketball' is a sport. or that your favourite sex act is abstinence. but my main reply to you is: dont triple post.ghossfeld88 wrote: mrducky wrote: patric77 wrote: Babies don't go to heaven? Discuss. everyone goes to heaven  /thread correct even hitler? even josef fritzl?  
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									 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?  Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 6:02 am   | 
				 
				 
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						lol       sorry I was half asleep and I just wanted to mess with you guys. I do not know what happens to babies when they die.  
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									 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?  Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:11 am   | 
				 
				 
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						 though harsh, but it'll be just like everything else... body will rot, decompose and his concious will disappear... 
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									 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?  Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:37 am   | 
				 
				 
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						mrducky wrote: felgrand08 wrote: YesNoMaybe wrote: ... hmmm, personally i don't like atheists or Christians. I think any form of religion is pointless saying atheism is a religion is like saying 'Off' is a TV channel. or that 'not playing basketball' is a sport. or that your favourite sex act is abstinence. but my main reply to you is: dont triple post.Atheism is a belief structure, thus making it a religion. Despite there hate towards other religions, it is a religion itself.  
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