You're just repeating what everybody else has said in this thread so far.
I was going to say the same thing I said last time... But I just can't.. Its just to much, I seriously wonder if it its possible to have a decent thread about this..

will you start listening?
we are talking debate not self opinuon


another thing....
is that you in the picture!?

You're not debating, you're spouting nonsense that in no way contributes to this thread. With horrible spelling I might add.

And no, thats just the sexiest man alive.

you gay?
thats not the sexyest man ive seen....

Sure, no1 here should care, as this wont affect them directly. But no one stops to think on what it could actually do in the long time. Cmon, its just a law that, if absent, everything will stay just the way they were? There will be long-time effects we cant forsee, or rather wont believe will happen, because they think its ridiculous (a personal appreciation), like the example I just gave: a guy having the same dad, grandpa and great-grandpa. See what I wrote in red on the quotes be4 using rederoin's same argument pls...
But, when the oposition says that its just disgusting, they call it a personal opinion and already scrap it away. If anything, make up your minds and dont contradict each other and yourself; at least, if this is truly your opinion, and not a blind acceptance to it...

Plus, we can only imagine the many traumas caused by this, simply because it is not natural. Sure, freedom of speech, ideas, blah blah blah. We can talk down in biological terms here, which apply to every single human on Earth and outside it *nod to austronauts*. We are not made to hump our close family. Ever heard of "blue blood"? Royalty used incest before, and they got blue blood because of it. Yet, it described a "future king/queen" as much as it guaranteed that person a short and painful life. So after knowing this, you can care or you can just not care. But if you say you dont care, youre saying you simply dont care about the rest of humanity that will live on after you and all of us here die, those who will not have our predisposition, experiances and/or knowledge to avoid incest.

Alright, all debate aside, I have to admit, Rederoin is sexy.



But I still think he's *CENSORED* up in the head.

Arent you a bit *CENS0RED* in the head as well? Idk, just asking...

Nope, I'm just

I was debating this at the start, then got distracted. I have come back and it is the same debate. It isn't even s if it is incommensurable, it is just a continuous baseless assertion of opinion for the most part.

As I can summarise it, the following are the main objections;

1) It results in funny babies.

Response is that this debate is about sex and not procreation so this objection is null and void. You may argue around this, but your objection is weaker (in a philosophical sense) if it is limited to child bearing cases.

From this defenders can either preclude procreation from their respective defences, or enter a whole new debate. Either way that is not the discussion here.

2) It is sick/immoral/weird/not what I like.

Response is get over yourself. Forgetting procreation, or at least placing it in parenthesis for the reasons stated above, it is harmless. Reductio ad absurdum response will relate to gay relations, age gaps, interracial relations or other limited and perceived cultural taboos.

Essentially it doesn't matter. If you feel that you need to exclaim how 'sick' it is you are either very religious and saving us from ourselves, or very insecure. If you harp on about child rearing then you are parroting a tired and irrelevant old diatribe without reading the scope and limitations of this debate.

Nuff said?

And surely you will be here for all eternity, explaining this to all the people in the world, so they understand its not for babies or anything serious. And after that ride a black schoolbus and go up the rainbow. This isnt a fairy tale here: you might understand how to deal with a legal incest, but the ppl in the future wont have the same mentality we do. They will be born in a world where humping absolutely any1 not under age, as long as they consent, is legal. Take the absurdness of the idea away: think about what could very possibly happen.

1- They WOULD have babies. Seriously, you think there wont be crazies out there nowadays that dont have grandsons with their daughters already? Even when its not legal? Will everyone be as "sane" as you to obey this "rule"?

2- Insecure? You bet were insecure! How can you be so sure that this wont lead to worse consecuences, either in the long run or even inmediately? Im afraid of a world in which everything would be ok. I mean, people already think it is, and look where we are... not enough censored words can described how messed up we ALL are.

3- Its funny, as not many ppl here think this theme is funny. I for one think its worrying. Even when Im not surprised that a lot of ppl just dont give a damn for anything beyond their nose, it worries me if they are the most.

And btw, the ones who associated this with other limited and controversial taboos of the past wasnt us (the oposition). Most of the ones on this side have steered clear of that, because its not the same. The law against incest is, by no means, regarding any group as inferior, in absolutely any way. What it does is put a boundary between hurtful behavior and "acceptable" behavior. And acceptable in the context of a behavior that actually helps society. Even when most, if not all, of the current governments are corrupted, government as a concept is absolutely necessary. And with government rides a community that is ruled by it, which means its also necessary. This is part of the boundary that defines the current community. Dont like it? Too bad 4 you, that doesnt mean were wrong, and it doesnt mean all hell must break loose because you dont care for it to stay locked in.