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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:04 pm |
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Fix others' mistakes? Of wat?
Of not believe in something they believe in?
And telling this world is full of sadness and pain is a biggest mistake. It sounds like wat an emo is thinking for me.
First, a perfect world for me is a world with happiness and sadness. They compromise each other, the more sadness ones have been through, the more they will value their happiness.
Light and dark have to exist at the same time, darkness is not as scary if there is no light. And light is not as bright if there is no darkness.
Second, there are nothing such as happy forever world. As I've said, to gain happiness and success, u have to take a way a success of another.
You are happy next to your girlfriend, but you take away the happiness of the others who love you, or love her.
You are happy becuz you make lots of money, but you take away the happiness of the workers and businessmen that got bankcrupted becuz of ur success.
You are happy becuz your family is getting along, but you're making those who doesn't have a happy family life aware of themselves, hence feeling bad and jealous about your family.
You are happy becuz you've admitted to the university or the job of your dream, but u accidentally make at least another applicant being denied from the university (or the job).
You are happy becuz your football team won the championship, but you crushed the hopes and dreams of every other teams that is in the championship, as well as their fans.
When you gain something, another will lose something. That's the rule of life. And there is no way for everyone to achieve happiness without someone being suffered.
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:12 pm |
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There will be sadness in the after life its called Hell and if we needed to compare ourselves with someone else to make ourselves feel better we will just look at you and all the other doomed souls
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:37 pm |
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yeah right, as if comparing ourselves with the others will do anything.
there are tons of people suiciding everyday just becuz they think life is nothing for them anymore. And u know, there are tons of people with worse life, that are struggling their hardest to live. But the ones who suicided never care enough to compare of even look at them.
You have to be in the same position to be fully understand how they feel. You have never been through a single day without food, while the ones in Africa spent a whole month starving. So u can't understand their pains, and try hard as you may, you will never value money and food as much as they do.
and wat I meant, is to achieve happiness, u have to take away others' happiness. So if heaven and hell is true. All the people in heaven is going to take every last piece of happiness of all the people in hell?
If that's true, then I refuse to live in such world, I like the world I'm living give everyone a same chance to gain happiness or lose them. Not a world where the higher took away everything from the lower.
Plus, the thoughts of "this world is full of pain and sorrow, so we'll forget about this world and go to heaven, where there are no sadness and pain" is cowardice. That's just escaping reality and try to believe in something that is known as much as we know about the end of the universe.
I do see this world has a lot of pain and sorrow, but I also see this world as a beautiful place to live. I try to live everyday to my fullest, enjoy every single moment of happiness as well as sadness. I live my life with no regret, every single day. I enjoy pains and failures as much as I enjoy happiness and success. For me, happiness without sadness, success without failure will only dull myself. So no, I refuse to live in heaven, even if that place do exist.
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:00 pm |
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No, thats not it.......
If you get something or try to get something...... happiniess doesnt lie when you get it... but when you try to get it... you dont steal it from others, you share it with them... its how one should look....
You can either say, you won after you tried so hard... a glass can be both half empty and half full....
It was in Olympics moto wasnt it..... Its participating whats important, not winning...
Winning certainly is great, we all experiece it ...
WOrld certainly is no Utopia... you cant expect it to be... but well... they are somethings which continues to give me hope.... and I hope for it continously.....
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:14 pm |
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how matter good u talk about a championship, there will be someone, some group, either on the participants side or on the fan side, take things too seriously. If not, there will be no hooligans, or contestants using drugs.
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:16 pm |
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I dont agree with you aister you dont have to take others hapiness to be happy and the same rules dont apply in heaven as they do in Earth. Heaven is a perfect place where everyone is happy,
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:44 pm |
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ok then, wat if I want to have a girlfriend when I'm in heaven? when u have urself a girlfriend, those who likes you, or likes her, will be heartbroken, true? so basically u took away their happiness. when u want to be successful, u have to step on the others of the same businesses. You can't be a successful supermarket without closing all the small size markets and stores around. You can't win something without defeating another. That's the rules of life. And plus u haven't answered my reply Quote: For me, happiness without sadness, success without failure will only dull myself. So no, I refuse to live in heaven, even if that place do exist.
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:02 pm |
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Ok if you refuse to go to heaven no one is stopping you, you can just go to Hell, but when you die and you are being judged by God you will beg to go to heaven rather than suffer an eternity in Hell
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:47 pm |
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gunsgunsguns wrote: think of it this way
look around, people, space, atoms, and everything
what created it, if not god?
it cant just appear on its own Well im not against god but Stars, Moon, Sun, Atoms and Space could be created by the amount of space dust circling around a big source of heats then compressed That is a planet and other stuff and atoms could be microwaves, particle that made them join together.
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Post subject: Re: God: real or fake? Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:48 pm |
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ok then
given that hell and heaven and god do exist
if I believe in it, then when I die, I refuse to go to heaven, hence I have to go to hell.
if I don't believe in it, then when I die, god will put me in hell cuz "i don't believe in god".
in other words, I will go to hell whenever I believe in god or not, then why should I believe in it?
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