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SnOwDoG · **Joined:** Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:09 am **Posts:** 476

lazar1903 wrote:

malice, i am sorry , english is not my first language, you would write better in serbien, or in deutch , you probably speak atleast 3 languages when you dare to correct other people .
Milan is arrogant cheater who wanted to troll in this era, that is what i stop .
and SRB didnt just suicide in PHIz any armys. we had player offline, and didnt want to leave him alone. if that player had sibling, he would move his army, but SRB doesnt cheat like others , we dont have siblings.
i asked admin to let my sister play only to see what will be admins answer , i didnt realy want planed to have sibling ...

admin should delete some my double posting, it was made by accident

I fully understand what you are attempting to say; however, regardless of how many people are using only one account it is still one account hence 1 technical person although 2 are in control of the seat. None the less, if caught, still against the rules; however, if they live in the same residence/area, really difficult to prove.

The issue is Lazar, as Malice stated:

malicewolf wrote:

boy, things got heated quickly.

you'll simply be at the mercy of a 24/7 player who account shares and be none the wiser.

So as you can see, if 2 people are utilizing the same account, it is still account sharing. I have been banned 2 times in my entire BD career.

1- was for actually account sharing (learned lesson real quick and never did so again, those who know me know I am avail 24/7 for the most part)

2- Farming......my own stupid mistake

Since then, I have done everything by the book and if there is something that can be considered a ban/manipulating the system, I consult with the admin first. Please do not say that you are having people in your household aside from u accessing your account. If that is the case 2 people on 1 account is just as bad as 2 people using 2 accounts.

SnOwDoG · **Joined:** Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:09 am **Posts:** 476

lazar1903 wrote:

Lolowut wrote:

1516202899 wrote:

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How much of a case is needed? 2 people , 1 house , 2 colony`s all most round the clock someone plays these accounts.Gets banned for crystal farming . Goes back to a mans word. They have a license to cheat and nothing is done. So whats the next step after rational argument has been ignored?

All I see are beaten horses in these 2 topics, and a horse being beaten here. You're a fool because you want the Admin to see things from your point of view, and when the Admin replies with a reasonable response, you refuse to see things from their point of view.

You scream: "I WANT THESE PEOPLE BANNED NOW THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS AGAINST THE RULES!"

Admin says: "I don't see anything from my end that confirms your theory, we are closely monitoring the accounts and already have countermeasures in place that disallow people in the same household on the same era to do certain things."

You scream back: "BUT I WANT THEM BANNED AND SINCE YOU WON'T DO IT YOU'RE CORRUPT AND GIVING THEM A FREE PASS TO CHEAT"

You argue like a child. You don't get your way because your 'reasonable' argument is a bunch of repeated shouting of conspiracy theories. The Admins do a ton of work trying to make things as fair as possible and while they're not perfect they're far from being corrupt evil admins that are trying to take your candy. You don't know all the facts and until you try to look at things from their perspective you won't get close to putting up a reasonable argument.

As for the relic placement:

6/10 of the relics were in reach of KMO. This isn't unfair, they are smack dab in the middle of the map and positionally have the reach to go into 3 continents and contest 5 different oceans. Out of all the relic placements I've seen in the eras I've played, this CE is perhaps the most fair. I don't understand why Tony or KMO are upset. NJ has 3 relics, and of those 3 relics, 2 were unable to be contested by any other alliances except for friendlies.

So KMO was only about to take 2 out of the 6 relics they could've gotten because they were warring. Well that's KMO's decision. It's the smart decision. If you have 1 relic that's all that matters because no one can get 10. So focus on the war. If you're all frustrated that you only have 2, then why didn't you back off the war and go contest the other 4 you decided not to?

I know KMO isn't insulting the admin or calling them corrupt but Lazar is. So Lazar, what would be more fair? Allowing KMO to contest 7 of the 10 relics? 8? all 10? Would it be more fair if the relics they could contest were pretty much sitting on their coastline instead of directly in middle of the ocean?

I think it would be more corrupt to make decisions like that. Admin did the relic placement right when the era began and did a good job making sure that each continent had about 2 contestable relics each. It was very well done.

and now about relics deployment:

this Kenny guy said that each continent had 2 relics!!!
yes, if you count Australia as continent, it had 2 relics that only one side could reach .
yes, North and South America had 2 relics each, those 2 in South America could take only one side .

ok, lets make comedy:

so , Europe Asia and Africa had 4 relics ( how is that 2 relic per continent??? more like 1,33 ) .
and what is size of Australia on map???
why didnt you set 5 relics to Australia?
it is huge continent, 90% of Earth, should be 5 relics atleast for Kenny.

and Tony cry that admin wasnt fair to him, he has only 3 relics, and Ourania have 1
in Tonys mathematics, 1 is probably bigger number then 3 ...

admins place 5 relics in North and South America , and 2 in Australia .
fair placement?
maybe in Germany

The way relics have always been deployed:
1 relic in the indian ocean (africa India and AU access)
1 relic in the arctic around russia (EU and asia access)
1 Relic off the coast of Greenland (NA EU and Affrica access)
1 relic in the Atlantic ocean (SA and Africa Access)
2 relics in the pacific:
1- SA AA acces
2- NA access
2 relics spanning from one end of AA to the other (usually africa SA AU and AA access

For the last 2 relics Usually in the middle of NA and on some water region in EU or Africa

Rule of thumb is that there are relics only over water usually (aside from 1 v 1 relic) and you can usually place money on where they will pop up based upon the first release (usually 1 for africa 1 for AU 1 for SA 1 for AA and 1 for EU) Then the rest are 1 russia/asia 1 pacific ocean east for asia au 1 more aa opposite side of earth from previous 1 NA pacific/arctic and 1 SA pacific. This is the usual placement I have seen for many eras. Now when the admin states that the relics are coming, if an alliance is busy attacking during relic release, their own fault nothing more. No bias or prejudice is ever in the placement. It is nice to see you calmed down

lazar1903 · **Joined:** Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:00 am **Posts:** 39

SnOwDoG wrote:

lazar1903 wrote:

malice, i am sorry , english is not my first language, you would write better in serbien, or in deutch , you probably speak atleast 3 languages when you dare to correct other people .
Milan is arrogant cheater who wanted to troll in this era, that is what i stop .
and SRB didnt just suicide in PHIz any armys. we had player offline, and didnt want to leave him alone. if that player had sibling, he would move his army, but SRB doesnt cheat like others , we dont have siblings.
i asked admin to let my sister play only to see what will be admins answer , i didnt realy want planed to have sibling ...

admin should delete some my double posting, it was made by accident

I fully understand what you are attempting to say; however, regardless of how many people are using only one account it is still one account hence 1 technical person although 2 are in control of the seat. None the less, if caught, still against the rules; however, if they live in the same residence/area, really difficult to prove.

The issue is Lazar, as Malice stated:

malicewolf wrote:

boy, things got heated quickly.

you'll simply be at the mercy of a 24/7 player who account shares and be none the wiser.

So as you can see, if 2 people are utilizing the same account, it is still account sharing. I have been banned 2 times in my entire BD career.

1- was for actually account sharing (learned lesson real quick and never did so again, those who know me know I am avail 24/7 for the most part)

2- Farming......my own stupid mistake

Since then, I have done everything by the book and if there is something that can be considered a ban/manipulating the system, I consult with the admin first. Please do not say that you are having people in your household aside from u accessing your account. If that is the case 2 people on 1 account is just as bad as 2 people using 2 accounts.

i dont understand what are you trying to say, i only understand 1 part:
that you were doing account share , and farming

if we ignore that 2 forms of cheating that you admit , you are fair guy.

so , when we ellect new Pope, you could be one of candidates, because you are fair player most of the week...

slayerofall · **Joined:** Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:45 pm **Posts:** 268

lazar1903 wrote:

and Tony cry that admin wasnt fair to him, he has only 3 relics, and Ourania have 1
in Tonys mathematics, 1 is probably bigger number then 3 ...

admins place 5 relics in North and South America , and 2 in Australia .
fair placement?
maybe in Germany

Oh boy, why do u have so much of beef with the Germans?? :lol:

lazar1903 · **Joined:** Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:00 am **Posts:** 39

slayerofall wrote:

lazar1903 wrote:

and Tony cry that admin wasnt fair to him, he has only 3 relics, and Ourania have 1
in Tonys mathematics, 1 is probably bigger number then 3 ...

admins place 5 relics in North and South America , and 2 in Australia .
fair placement?
maybe in Germany

Oh boy, why do u have so much of beef with the Germans?? :lol:

becouse of Grim brothers. and Keiser Franc Bekenbauer . and Dirk Novicki

Hitmo · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:06 am

Guys i dont understand 1 thing
why are u even bothered to talk and discuss or reply to lazar , he and his complete nonsense , unrealstic post and waste our time ,
lazar we have already told u sibling rule is not gonna change and ur free to leave the game if u dont agree with the rules but then u have no right to bark on forums

slayerofall · **Joined:** Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:45 pm **Posts:** 268

1516202899 wrote:

Hummm , are`t you conquered by NJo? Isn`t that farming? As you obviously support there side.......

Kinda sad you wanna talk crap. But you are now called out for abusing the system. So by effect your arguments and slandering are mute.

Ever heard of watchers who can't really afford the time, to play the game but are still interested trying to know what's going on and reporting on the forum? Maybe u did not notice he was conquered by some KCA allied guy for the major part of the round - so that makes him a KCA farm too??

Since when being conquered has become a sin in these game? His hatred for KCA alliance is obviously and clearly due to the fact, that he despises the way they play the game and their is no dearth of ppl in BD who think likewise.

By calling him a Farm, without any basis behind it. You are crying wolf again - and to be honest you should stop coming up with your useless "conspiracy theories" here, else it would be just a matter of time before u are labelled as a Nitwit.

P.S: it's funny how u accuse him of talking crap, when it's you (and that lazer/lazar guy) who has been spewing rubbish endlessly on this thread. :lol:

Clamination · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:14 am

1516202899 wrote:

Clamination wrote:

I cannot take anything lazar says seriously lol. Its almost like when I read his name, I instantly think of whatever he's trying to say and make it about something being racist or something completely aside from the point he attempted to make. That said, its odd how the relic would end up right in the hive of KMO. Would've seemed less weird in Europe but it doesn't matter at this point.

KMO is already down in this war as they've been unable to kill PhiZ for the longest time now. If that isn't enough nail-biting news, NJ, RDH, and WSS are forcing the KMO coalition back off of GL and seem to be taking command of the situation. Further reports will become ready in the future.

Hummm , are`t you conquered by NJo? Isn`t that farming? As you obviously support there side.......

Clamination wrote:

Oh well then nvm. That is embarrassing lol. But not as embarrassing as the KCA coalition's beatdown is gonna be. xD

Kinda sad you wanna talk crap. But you are now called out for abusing the system. So by effect your arguments and slandering are mute.

It seems I have my own personal lazar right now. Well since we are spewing needless and obviously troll-natured conspiracy theories, let me begin by pointing out that even IF I was a farm, I would never be a farm to a subbie. I'm worth way more than that. No, the reason I'm conquered is because of miscommunication from WSS to the rest of the allies as well as laziness on my part. If I really tried I could have messaged everyone to not take my ops, but again, I'm just so damn lazy right now. I've tried multiple times to leave that area already I am at but my ops keep getting taken from me. And thank you for noticing my support!

Always helps to have a fan in the audience.

It seems you must be a fan though to go through the forum and look for my name lol. I never knew I would be that popular to be used in a form of accusation on something I've never done, and will not do. Then again, not surprising coming from a KFC coalition noob. You guys will look for anything that you think will help your cause. Not my problem though, I'm just in E6 to fight against KMO as I do not agree with their play-style nor do I condone the past actions of their members. I would simply rather do my part in making sure that we do not call them champions. So before you decide to falsely accuse me of committing a violation of this game, I recommend that you have more proof and a stronger foundation of simply more than me just being conquered by NJo and yelling farm.

Alone1 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:51 am

so kids lets troll ourania today

1st lets swear kmo and their game style
2nd blame her coliation
3rd blame her,her skills,her supporters,everything related to her
4th call eachother cheater
5th go back sleep and dream about pie. amen
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This is what I see in forums these days, just a couple of guys showing their Immaturity, repeating same thing everyday on and on makes yourself look foolish nothing else. Well If you hate ourania come and defeat her, why whinning like kid

Clamination · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:09 am

Alone1 wrote:

so kids lets troll ourania today

1st lets swear kmo and their game style
2nd blame her coliation
3rd blame her,her skills,her supporters,everything related to her
4th call eachother cheater
5th go back sleep and dream about pie. amen
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This is what I see in forums these days, just a couple of guys showing their Immaturity, repeating same thing everyday on and on makes yourself look foolish nothing else. Well If you hate ourania come and defeat her, why whinning like kid

Totes obvi that you didn't read my second paragraph, but its understandable to be salty before the big loss lol. Idk why you keep defending her Sayan. I try not to make it personal but you insist on throwing yourself in my way. Now if you come to whine right back about the whining, it just makes you look like a self-targeting hypocrite. And btw, IND is a perfect example of why I will make sure you guys for sure don't win lol. Trashy backstabbing is never cool.

Alone1 wrote:

her skills

What skills? lol Unless you count flapping the jaw as skill, there's not much to go on bud. Maybe in certain "other" professions, but certainly not BD.

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