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 Post subject: sm new Vs old generation
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 8:10 am 
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the old generation like me are the peeps from the old system 3.5

but the new generation after ,..................
these people are nothing , no offense but , they just copy all the Overpowered builds they see.

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for 1 month i watched j^6 and jcubed dominate with their pure physical built. and everybody thougt they were the best , but i think differently and said nooooo.

and proofed everyone wrong . i made a new built lv15-16. lucifer based built
which is a energie / physical built.

and have beaten both of them and every one else u can think of ( but still gladiatus and spula are still pending) in lv15-17

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i have been gone for 3 days and 14 hours,

now that im back , i see new people with just 100% copy pasted built of mine dominating other weaker people.

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

i just wana ask where all the originality went?

for examle: apple VS sony VS samsung

conclusions : the new generation is no challange to me now , hope u developers bring out a new update. so i have to think harder to make an op built , btw good jobs admin.

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95% of y'all here in sm copy all the top ranks built , isn't this true?
i could have copied j^6 and jcube or krabrak , but instead i made a better one . now all u thiefs have stolen it , very pist off. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: sm new Vs old generation
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 9:53 am 
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The old generation use to copy mech builds just as much xD There was just more diversity between the builds available as there were more levels to fight at and parts were easier to obtain.

Everyone use to copy the Lucifer build at the lowest level. Again, a lot of people use to copy the shielded build, with a few tweaks here and there but always very similar.

As for when you changed over the damage build to an energy/damage build on the new generation, the same happened on the older generation. An energy build was created with the Lucifer that could beat the current strongest mech build and everyone ran to copy it. It was only when they found out that kits ruined the build did they go back to the original build.

As for the energy build you created now, I've seen many like this before since the start of the new generation. Without kits, yes it's difficult to beat (but no impossible). However with an energy kit, it's not that difficult to take down as the deep drain is limited to two shots.

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 Post subject: Re: sm new Vs old generation
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 10:27 am 
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andy boy , i thought u were smarter :D , but pretty smart would rate u 9/10

but as u said the same built i have now was just like the old one in the old system, well that is correct . "thumbs up" ;)

i dont know if u could remeber a player named "LikeAboss" he had the same built ine the old system 3.5L , but that was my old account .

andy get ur bugs bunny mech out here and face me like a man , and we will see how it ends. "that is if u have the stones to do so".

im online now ,

edit: i make the most Op builts men kind has ever seen.


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 Post subject: Re: sm new Vs old generation
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 10:30 am 
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I would like to see the replay where you beat j6, because for a long time I've considered him to be the strongest a level 15.

That being said, I have to take issue with some of your comments.

"level 15-16" so you mean 16? It's one or the other, and I'm guessing it's 16 because that's when you can use the pretty overpowered energy drain weapon. You can also use the level 16 drones which are quite strong. j6, gladiatus, spula,krabrak,mechzilla,princesszoey are all 15 so already you have a significant advantage.

"Lucifer built" isn't original. It's the torso nearly everyone uses. I guess it's slightly better than a gladiator although I don't see a big difference in the stats. By the way, 'eagle eye' is also a very good torso, if you're willing to use a lot of kits. You have 5 kit slots instead of 3 (for lucifer or gladiator), which is a big advantage. For example, Omni uses it to good effect with an energy build.

When you say "a new physical/energy build" I'm guessing you mean 2 energy drainers and 2 either lasers or yelloworms for side weapons. None of that is particularly original, many many people have tried it and many currently use it. For example, 666 uses that build and I also use a similar build (and no, I didn't copy it from anyone).

Going through the top level 15s I know about:

Now let me say that j6 experimented a lot with builds before he landed on the one he has. He was the 1st I saw use it. Although it may not be most effective, it's still very good and one he more or less created.

Gladiatus did copy him, exactly.

Krabrak uses a build j6 used to have. I'm not sure who came up with it 1st.

Spula uses a completely different build than anyone else almost entirely relying on bullets, but he made it very effective.

Mechzilla is also absolutely original with a 2 sword build.

PrincessZoey uses a heat based build I haven't seen many other people with.

All of these guys (with the exception of gladiatus) use different builds and get good results with them.

So where is the problem with originality?... because I don't see it.

"now all u thiefs have stolen it"

I don't think the build you "created" is your intellectual property. You can't prove anyone else copied it from you instead of thinking it up themselves, and most likely someone had the build before you thought it up.

And deep drains combined with yelloworms or lasers is hardly the most inventive thing ever. Combining overpowered damage and energy draining weapons - more or less obvious if you play a level 16.

Now let me take a minute to brag about a small recent accomplishment of mine. I'm not very good at level 15 and I'm only okay-ish at 18, but I've had very good results at 30.

In the past everyone was going crazy over the heat build with 4 drainers or 5 drainers and a sword. It was all the rage, but I got bored with it and changed to:

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And in the last 3 weeks I got 1st 3rd and 2nd respectively with this, also briefly reaching 50,000 points. Nobody could understand why my average looking mech could beat nearly everyone consistently.

But I couldn't beat dany2014 like that....

So I thought up a strange build, and this is what happened:


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That was in a kit fight. He used resistance kit, hp kit, cooling kit, energy kit and I used only resistance and hp kit. And that was with my only weapon (legs) at 0 fusion. So you see, you can beat anything with a bit of originality. Every build is vulnerable, even ones which people think are invincible. You just have to think outside the box.


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 Post subject: Re: sm new Vs old generation
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 10:38 am 
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ogonna before u say something ask j^6 himself , ask him if he ever won Alliance? in his life

second , u wont be strong much longer ogonna cuz u keep underestamating niko1313 . cuz i wouldnt do that if i were u.

niko1313 will eventually beat u at lv30, just be patient and expirience it for urself

btw i upgraded to lv17 , cuz of a lv18 problem . but cant beat all lv18 like Mr1two or paradoxon

edit 1: 666 cant beat me u noob

edit 2: i think u do not know what the word original mean, the first person to built his mech this way is original. i watched 666 and us-omni their built and 3 weeks ago they did not had that built , that i created :lol:

edit 3 : i will still be stronger cuz i have most legendaries at lv14-16 and epics :P
and those others dont know how to put up a good module combination , which is the most important thing :D

edit 4: ooow last thing , 3 weeks ago , everybody had a heat/physical built. so im pretty sure that i came with this current built of mine


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 Post subject: Re: sm new Vs old generation
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 11:17 am 
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I never see j6 around. I'm not questioning whether or not you beat him, I just would like to see how.

If niko comes back, I look forward to fighting him. I don't see how his return would stop me from being "strong".

It's easier to fix the problem by going to 15 rather than going closer to 18. At 17 you're gonna be facing level 18s all the time.

I never said 666 could beat you, and calm down please.

For something to be original, first off it has to be new. I don't think you can prove you were the 1st to use the build you use (to be honest, I'm not even sure what your build is).

I never discussed who is "stronger". You may be stronger, I don't know. Your 1st post wasn't about who is strongest, it was about how people lack originality and only copy others. I proved you wrong by showing that j6, krabrak, spula, mechzilla, princesszoey, sleepingbunny and omni all have different builds and achieve success with their build.

3 weeks ago j6 had the same pure physical build with an energy drone. So did spula - pure physical with lots of bullets. princesszoey, mechzilla and sleepingbunny have been heat/physical for a lot longer than 3 weeks but they all do it a bit differently.

And everyone did not and does not have the same build.


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 Post subject: Re: sm new Vs old generation
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 11:28 am 
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Something I don't understand with 666. The weekly tournament restarted last night, so most players are back to 1000 points. In one day he's up to 11,000 points.

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This is me beating someone with around 1000 points, and I get 31 points for it at level 16. If you take that as the average points per game won on 666 (since the tournament has just restarted most player are around 1000 points) he would need 344 wins, without a loss, to reach where he is at now.

(11000-1000)/31=322 calculation.

I know this will be a bit off, but it will be close to that value. However 666 already won last weeks tournament, so he must already have quite a lot of wins from them and he's only at 492 wins. This means leveling up and his winnings from last week were only around 170 wins... something to me doesn't quite add up.

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 Post subject: Re: sm new Vs old generation
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 11:33 am 
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lol thats because he was playing 24/7 , he needs to refresh his browser and the original points will be revealed

edit: ogonna please ask j^6 if he won the battle against Alliance.

when he told you the answer , than come back here and spell it out who the winner was , okay ogonna?

than i have nothing more to say to that,

edit: i do not wana go to lv15 , otherwise i cant use my lv16 weapons.
so than im forced to copy j^6 his lv15 built which is more benfitual, but not the best by far


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 Post subject: Re: sm new Vs old generation
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 12:03 pm 
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One slight change and I can now compete with energy builds ^_^

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 Post subject: Re: sm new Vs old generation
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 12:09 pm 
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:lol: i did not say that you were the worst player ever. lol

but in an kits battle which is often my motto, energie is the better friend ;)
cuz 1# the battle last longer ,
#2 you will need to rely on ur drone , (against energie it is nothing) useless + teleport ,hook and charge
#3 physical doesnt deall that much damage with my kits on :P + shield


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